CiALiN Advanced Member
Ireland
535 posts Joined: Apr, 2009
Posted - 2009/08/03 : 00:43:12
quote:Originally posted by Caller:
so then guys after all these discussions, what would be the best program to use for beginners FL or cubase????
and is there a download demo for cubase????
thanks again
Caller
i would personally recommend fl studio...well thats because its where i started and im completly happy with what it does for me now...im not near good but in time ill make the jump to cubase or logic..and not that i know of for cubase...you could get your hands on the try before you buy sx 3..but its awful ****ing confusing
Meathead Advanced Member
United Kingdom
4,217 posts Joined: Sep, 2006
Posted - 2009/08/03 : 11:54:02
quote:Originally posted by CiALiN:
**** me cubase is so ****ing confusing....i will never get my head round this shite haha
Lol
What version are you on and is there anything in particular you're struggling with mate? I'm not exactly a pro but i've been using it for 6 months or so now so i can try to help if you want?
quote:Originally posted by Caller:
so then guys after all these discussions, what would be the best program to use for beginners FL or cubase????
and is there a download demo for cubase????
thanks again
Caller
No there is no demo for Cubase. You may have to use your imagination with that one ;)
Just make sure if you do "try before you buy" and you end up liking it, you DO buy it yeah?
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CiALiN Advanced Member
Ireland
535 posts Joined: Apr, 2009
Posted - 2009/08/03 : 14:40:30
sx 3....everything is just so hard and different lol..also how do u put your effects on a channel??like eq reverd compresser and that
Meathead Advanced Member
United Kingdom
4,217 posts Joined: Sep, 2006
Posted - 2009/08/03 : 15:08:58
Hmm, i'm not sure if it's the same in SX3 as in 5 but in 5 there is a little "e" icon on every channel. Click on this icon and a window should pop up. This window should have a strip for inserts, sends and a box for EQing. Alternatively bring up the mixer (F3) and find the channel you want, it should have a drop down icon that should allow you to pick what the mixer displays. Inserts, sends, metre etc. Select inserts and you're away.
Like i say i'm not sure if this is the case with SX3 but this is how to do it in 5, give it a try if you still stuck let me know and i'll do some screenshots or something. Also i think either in this thread or another Triquatra posted up a video of the Cubase (i think it's for SX3) basics, try find this and look on youtube for more mate.
Apparently 5 fixed a load of issues people had with SX3 so bear that in mind before you rule out Cubase all together. My favourite new feature is the VST instrument channel as appose to MIDI channels, so much easier. I love Cubase 5! Give it time and you may too mate. Like i say gizza shout if you need.
EDIT
The video Triquatra posted, worth a look i guess.
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all your posts are amazing and you have helped me so much in starting to make hardcore, i think i have complety killed my laptop with thte mount of time i have spent of FL demo and i think im going to buy the downloadable version asap.
just a quick question how do u change the tempo of each individual piece on FL (not the whole track)
thanks again
Caller
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CiALiN Advanced Member
Ireland
535 posts Joined: Apr, 2009
Posted - 2009/08/05 : 18:09:04
quote:Originally posted by Caller:
hey guys
all your posts are amazing and you have helped me so much in starting to make hardcore, i think i have complety killed my laptop with thte mount of time i have spent of FL demo and i think im going to buy the downloadable version asap.
just a quick question how do u change the tempo of each individual piece on FL (not the whole track)
thanks again
Caller
glad to hear you chose fl lad...feel free to add my msn if ever need any advice.
emm depends what you are looking to get in tempo..if its a loop then open a fruity slicer..drag the sample from the menu on the side into the slicer and it whould slice it up and change the tempo to what you are working at..i often caine slicer..
another way is just drag the loop or vocal or watever into the top bar of the playlist where the automation clips goe and just time stretch it..hope that helped
näkkk Advanced Member
Norway
755 posts Joined: Feb, 2009
16 hardcore releases
Posted - 2009/08/05 : 19:46:45
quote:Originally posted by Caller:
hey guys
all your posts are amazing and you have helped me so much in starting to make hardcore, i think i have complety killed my laptop with thte mount of time i have spent of FL demo and i think im going to buy the downloadable version asap.
just a quick question how do u change the tempo of each individual piece on FL (not the whole track)
thanks again
Caller
You could use a tempo automation clip ^^
Select the area you want to change the tempo for, right click the bpm box and click 'Create automation clip'. You should get a box in the upper part of the playlist with a straight line. Now just make curves, slopes and whatever out of this line and the tempo changes accordingly
Mortis Advanced Member
United Kingdom
7,493 posts Joined: May, 2004
341 hardcore releases
Posted - 2009/08/05 : 20:13:57
quote:Originally posted by näkkk:
quote:Originally posted by Caller:
hey guys
all your posts are amazing and you have helped me so much in starting to make hardcore, i think i have complety killed my laptop with thte mount of time i have spent of FL demo and i think im going to buy the downloadable version asap.
just a quick question how do u change the tempo of each individual piece on FL (not the whole track)
thanks again
Caller
You could use a tempo automation clip ^^
Select the area you want to change the tempo for, right click the bpm box and click 'Create automation clip'. You should get a box in the upper part of the playlist with a straight line. Now just make curves, slopes and whatever out of this line and the tempo changes accordingly
The automation way of changing the tempo on FL is a really shit and it would only automate the project tempo. I think Caller wants to change the tempo of individual samples, which can be done like CiALiN by using either FL Slicer, Slice X or by dropping the sample into the pattern area (the top bit) and then zoom in and drag the sample so it's tempo is correct.
Caller, if you need any help with anything feel free to send me a PM - I'm not a master but I can do a few things
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näkkk Advanced Member
Norway
755 posts Joined: Feb, 2009
16 hardcore releases
Posted - 2009/08/05 : 21:25:31
Yeah Mortis, tempo automation isn't very precise is it :p
Also, if you know the original bpm of the sample, you can type it into the ID3 bpm tag, and then shove it in the sampler. If FL reads the bpm from there, it will automatically fit it to your project bpm, and you can just put it in the step sequencer ^^
Mortis Advanced Member
United Kingdom
7,493 posts Joined: May, 2004
341 hardcore releases
Posted - 2009/08/05 : 21:32:13
quote:Originally posted by näkkk:
Yeah Mortis, tempo automation isn't very precise is it :p
Also, if you know the original bpm of the sample, you can type it into the ID3 bpm tag, and then shove it in the sampler. If FL reads the bpm from there, it will automatically fit it to your project bpm, and you can just put it in the step sequencer ^^
I would advise against putting a sample (say if it's a drum loop or something) into the step sequencer, it's easier to put it in the pattern area.
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Jackol Senior Member
United States
443 posts Joined: Nov, 2008
Posted - 2009/08/10 : 07:21:27
quote:Originally posted by Caller:
again guys
massive help thanks for making this hapen, for most supportive peeps thank you
but just a quick one does fl let me save my work????
It does if you have the full version lol! The demo will only let you export to a wav or mp3 file, so you won't be able to go back and modify the actual project file.
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Posted - 2009/08/03 : 00:38:14
Give it time and you may too mate. Like i say gizza shout if you need.
