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Hard2Get
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 Posted - 2009/08/01 : 20:58:48
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
Mortis you may as well just move to Cubase, it works the same way as you use Fruity, just alot simpler/more effective.
I don't have a midi keyboard and as far as I can tell you need one to get sound out of cubase.
You have been greatly mislead! You can put notes in with the mouse the same way as Fruity, it has a 'piano roll' that functions in exactly the same way (but better in my opinion).
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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2009/08/01 : 21:10:23
yeah the Cubase piano roll is WAY better
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Shades
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Posted - 2009/08/01 : 22:19:32
how is it better (i've never used cubase) can you zoom in further ?
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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2009/08/02 : 00:00:58
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how is it better (i've never used cubase) can you zoom in further ?
Well, for audio files (wav) the Cubase playlist definitely lets you zoom in further and rearrange/slice much more accurately/easily
but we're talking about the piano roll...I'm not sure how much you'd wanna zoom in on a MIDI pattern? The main reason it's better is that the notes say what they are (eg C#), the quantize features are better, there's a chord/note thing that tells you what chord something is if you put the cursor on the chord, there's MUCH more advanced MIDI notation handling features, etc.
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Orbit1
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Posted - 2009/08/02 : 01:02:08
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Originally posted by Dain-Ja:
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Originally posted by Shades_of_Grey:
how is it better (i've never used cubase) can you zoom in further ?
Well, for audio files (wav) the Cubase playlist definitely lets you zoom in further and rearrange/slice much more accurately/easily
but we're talking about the piano roll...I'm not sure how much you'd wanna zoom in on a MIDI pattern?
To edit CC messages accurately at the 1/128th triplet level?
Or doesn't anyone else do that?
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Mortis
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Posted - 2009/08/02 : 04:11:21
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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Originally posted by Mortis:
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
Mortis you may as well just move to Cubase, it works the same way as you use Fruity, just alot simpler/more effective.
I don't have a midi keyboard and as far as I can tell you need one to get sound out of cubase.
You have been greatly mislead! You can put notes in with the mouse the same way as Fruity, it has a 'piano roll' that functions in exactly the same way (but better in my opinion).
Strange. I couldn't get a sound out of it. Maybe it was just my options.
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Shades
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Posted - 2009/08/02 : 07:52:49
most of the time with fills (& short vox) in FL im working at full zoom & really could do with better view just for accuracy & so i can 'see' it's in the right place, if that makes any sense.
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CiALiN
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Posted - 2009/08/02 : 14:35:42
yeah it does...fl zoom in ****ing sucks balls...
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2009/08/02 : 21:58:50
In Cubase you just have a slider for each axis of the grid and you can zoom in or out at any increment you like (there is no set increments like in FL).
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2009/08/02 : 22:37:44
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Originally posted by Mortis:Strange. I couldn't get a sound out of it. Maybe it was just my options.
if you watch that video, and your sound settings are correct in your prefrences everthing should be fine :)
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/08/02 : 22:42:04
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
In Cubase you just have a slider for each axis of the grid and you can zoom in or out at any increment you like (there is no set increments like in FL).
And you don't have to keep going up to the top of piano roll to switch tools just to erase one little note or draw one in. ****ing hated that in FL. The glide wedge tool was good though.
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2009/08/02 : 22:58:40
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
In Cubase you just have a slider for each axis of the grid and you can zoom in or out at any increment you like (there is no set increments like in FL).
And you don't have to keep going up to the top of piano roll to switch tools just to erase one little note or draw one in. ****ing hated that in FL. The glide wedge tool was good though.
Lol, i never actually did that in FL, i just right clicked which deleted the notes, very convinient.
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/08/02 : 23:30:44
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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Originally posted by Meathead:
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
In Cubase you just have a slider for each axis of the grid and you can zoom in or out at any increment you like (there is no set increments like in FL).
And you don't have to keep going up to the top of piano roll to switch tools just to erase one little note or draw one in. ****ing hated that in FL. The glide wedge tool was good though.
Lol, i never actually did that in FL, i just right clicked which deleted the notes, very convinient.
Didn't know you could do it like that. It never worked when i tried it and when i watched Kev Willows videos i'm sure he changed tool...hmmm **** knows i still don't like FL lol
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CiALiN
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Posted - 2009/08/02 : 23:43:42
**** me cubase is so ****ing confusing....i will never get my head round this shite haha
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Caller
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Posted - 2009/08/03 : 00:02:09
so then guys after all these discussions, what would be the best program to use for beginners FL or cubase????
and is there a download demo for cubase????
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