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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/07/30 :  23:14:53  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Meathead's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mortis:
quote:
Originally posted by CiALiN:
i actually dont know how fruity has such a bad reputation..



I think it's all down to the GUI. As far as I can tell it gets a bad rap because people see it in a "paint by numbers" light. Personally I use it in a different way so my projects don't look too different from a cubase project.



I never discovered that, the step sequencer veiw i believe? I may have stuck with FL if i had, i love how Cubase is set out, but FL with it's f*cking patterns drove me up the wall.


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näkkk
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Posted - 2009/07/30 :  23:21:34  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit näkkk's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Meathead:
I'm not gonna sell you samples mate lol. Look at my earlier post: "?intitle:index.of? wav bass" Type in google and replace "bass" with whatever samples you want. Hey presto, samples galore.


What about those K Complex stuffs, what should I search for? ;F


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Originally posted by Meathead:
Private show? You make it sound so seedy lol. I've never finished a track i've gotten about half way at most. I then spend ages trying to improve the production quality. Been producing 5 months or so now, i'm getting there but i'm not at a level where i'm ready to unleash my tunes on the general public.


Don't be so secretive :p My first track was done and internetted(if that becomes a new word, just remember who came up with it ;)! ) 5 hours after I got my hands of FL Studio ^^ It's fun to have something to look back on and think "mate, was I shit back then"

You can hear this track for a laugh on my MySpace :D www.myspace.com/nakkenboro
It's the last track, "My bicycle is broken"

You'll love the drums


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Mortis
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Posted - 2009/07/30 :  23:31:41  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Mortis's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by CiALiN:
how did u do that mortis???




Most people use the block method:



I use the pattern method:



I find the block method confusing and but the pattern method is easier to use, I can see exactly what's going on all the time.



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Sendaii
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Posted - 2009/07/30 :  23:38:26  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Sendaii's homepage  Reply with quote
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I find the block method confusing and but the pattern method is easier to use, I can see exactly what's going on all the time.


I actually find the pattern method more confusing, too much going on. If you colour-code the blocks, it makes your life a hell of a lot easier.


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CiALiN
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Posted - 2009/07/31 :  00:16:33  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit CiALiN's homepage  Reply with quote
aww yeah thats quite smart...i never bothered to use that part...apart from automation slipc and sweeps

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Yateszy
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Posted - 2009/07/31 :  00:48:23  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Yateszy's homepage  Reply with quote
Blocks have their reasons for being there, such as using more than one channel at once in the same black can save space making things easier to find. Say I wanted a loop going and also some bleepy samples going aswell I could put it all in a single block.

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CiALiN
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Posted - 2009/07/31 :  01:21:24  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit CiALiN's homepage  Reply with quote
what would be the point in that haha just keep everything in its own channel...keep it nice and organised

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Mortis
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Posted - 2009/07/31 :  01:32:16  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Mortis's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Yateszy:
Blocks have their reasons for being there, such as using more than one channel at once in the same black can save space making things easier to find. Say I wanted a loop going and also some bleepy samples going aswell I could put it all in a single block.



quote:
Originally posted by CiALiN:
what would be the point in that haha just keep everything in its own channel...keep it nice and organised



Exactly.

If you start to have things in different channels everything gets mixed up. If I want a bleepy sample going at the same time as something else I'll just put two patterns playing at the same time. It's much faster and cleaner.


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CiALiN
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Posted - 2009/07/31 :  13:32:07  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit CiALiN's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mortis:
quote:
Originally posted by Yateszy:
Blocks have their reasons for being there, such as using more than one channel at once in the same black can save space making things easier to find. Say I wanted a loop going and also some bleepy samples going aswell I could put it all in a single block.



quote:
Originally posted by CiALiN:
what would be the point in that haha just keep everything in its own channel...keep it nice and organised



Exactly.

If you start to have things in different channels everything gets mixed up. If I want a bleepy sample going at the same time as something else I'll just put two patterns playing at the same time. It's much faster and cleaner.



true that



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Yateszy
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Posted - 2009/07/31 :  14:27:30  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Yateszy's homepage  Reply with quote
I'm not saying I don't agree but after a while you end up with about 50 different patterns and it becomes a pain finding stuff, so I group certain bits into one pattern to save space.

Ie, a crash with 1 kick drum at the same time can just stay in the same pattern whats the point having them in two different patterns if your only going to use them together anyway and never at different times. I just name it "1 Kick + Crash".


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Shades
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Posted - 2009/07/31 :  16:45:44  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Shades's homepage  Reply with quote
totally agree with mortis on this, by using the pattern's in the audio section of the playlist you have more control, the bonus is, you can chop up a single pattern copy drag etc... saves making loads of seperate patterns to use in the block playlist

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Mortis
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Posted - 2009/07/31 :  18:06:24  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Mortis's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shades_of_Grey:
totally agree with mortis on this, by using the pattern's in the audio section of the playlist you have more control, the bonus is, you can chop up a single pattern copy drag etc... saves making loads of seperate patterns to use in the block playlist



Yup.


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Caller
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Posted - 2009/07/31 :  23:40:47  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Caller's homepage  Reply with quote
wow guys i'm overwhelmed with all the responces

first off thank you very much for all you support.

part from being a student i am a semi pro carp angler/coach and i would never get this kind of response if i was starting to fish for the first time so this is amazing and i am very grateful.

from listen to what you all ave to say and checking out your tunes i am gagging to make my own! been listening to hardcore constantly and the radio on here which from 4 days ago i found it, it is the best thing since slice bread (keep going guys) and just trying to get as much inspiration as possible, even when i'm outside netting the ponds iv got my ipod blaring lol.

iv downloaded the FL demo and well what can i say i feel like a right noob and have no idea how to use it or even start (such a noddy) so will check out some tutorials on you tube but any more help or vids or anything you guys can throw at me we be so appreciated and i couldn't thank you guys enough

Caller


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CiALiN
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Posted - 2009/07/31 :  23:53:17  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit CiALiN's homepage  Reply with quote
right great to hear your finding your feet....but i have something that may help you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MyyBF5jq-w

^^^check that out...well all of them..kev willow is his name and he built a hardcore tune through 8 tutorials i think....so defo check them out ull defo learn a tonne..

well hope that helps


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Shades
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Posted - 2009/08/01 :  00:28:31  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Shades's homepage  Reply with quote
is the piano roll active in the new demo ?

when i used the demo was fl6 then, the piano roll was disabled & to be honest theres no way to work properly with out it


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