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tlr
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 Posted - 2009/07/24 : 09:01:05
Hello,
I am a fairly experienced electronic musician, although new to this forum and relatively new to HHXC in general (I've listened on and off to HHXC and related genres for years, but just got really into it). I am writing a album with a lot of influence from happy hardcore, particularly of the genre present on Bonkers - The Next Chapter. I have been listening to massive amounts of happy hardcore, trying to absorb and understand the idioms or cliches that define the genre. I believe I have a pretty fair idea, but I would like to hear what the HHXC veterans of this forum consider to be the definition of the genre. I don't mean "define HHXC", I mean what musical ideas and audio ideas do you think make something be happy hardcore? Also just cliches that are present a lot would be helpful.
Also: Any suggested listening material? (in the vein of Bonkers - The Next Chapter)
thanks!
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2009/07/24 : 09:06:09
what is HHXC?
happy hard..X?..core
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atomsk
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Posted - 2009/07/24 : 10:07:46
quote:
Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
what is HHXC?
HxC=hardcore over in america
so HHxC means happy hardcore?
lol
idk
more than likey he/she means happyhardcore lol
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2009/07/24 : 11:00:14
ive never heard hardcore said HxC ever lol - not even in my five years of living in the states
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tlr
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Posted - 2009/07/24 : 12:02:05
hxc = hardcore
hhxc = happy hardcore
Interesting that no one here is familiar with the hxc acronym. I am not sure that it is actually used in reference to the hardcore dance scene, i belive the term hxc primarily is used in the hardcore punk/metal scene. also sxe means straight edge... but **** that. happy hardcore is just such a long name to be typing all the time.
now that thats cleared up...
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Posted - 2009/07/24 : 12:03:59
yea, i would say thats a more punk thing im guess, 6 years and 30'000+ members and ive never seen that on here :P
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tlr
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Posted - 2009/07/24 : 12:18:32
makes sense... like i said i am pretty new to the genre. it is a handy acronym tho
any thoughts on common cliches or idioms?
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Posted - 2009/07/24 : 12:30:11
for happy hardcore
170BPM+ and happy vibe, amen break thrown in for good measure
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/07/24 : 13:24:14
Why would you use "hxc" as an abeviation of Hardcore? Where's the "x" come from?
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Audio Warfare
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Posted - 2009/07/24 : 13:26:27
If you're talking about modern hardcore then Massive Supersaw leads, Big, distorted, off beat basses, cheesy vocals, Rushy breakdowns with big pad/string/piano sections, a fun, non-serious approach.
Acid lines are used in a lot of the freeform stuff and even some of the mainstream tracks.
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Where's the "x" come from?
From your dealer mate. Reach for the lazers, safe as ****.
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KidKaboom
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Posted - 2009/07/24 : 13:40:50
quote:
Originally posted by Audio Warfare:
Reach for the lazers, safe as ****.
Bwhahha, rofl..... classic quote....
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/07/24 : 16:37:11
quote:
Originally posted by Audio Warfare:
If you're talking about modern hardcore then Massive Supersaw leads, Big, distorted, off beat basses, cheesy vocals, Rushy breakdowns with big pad/string/piano sections, a fun, non-serious approach.
Acid lines are used in a lot of the freeform stuff and even some of the mainstream tracks.
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Originally posted by Meathead:
Where's the "x" come from?
From your dealer mate. Reach for the lazers, safe as ****.
Cheers Storm almost forgot what to do with them lazers for a second ;) My dealers on holdiay, i've had to take up licking toad in the mean time :(
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tlr
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 Posted - 2009/07/24 : 19:48:35
Thanks! This is closer to what I was looking for, not really into a discussion of the merits or non-merits of acronyms. 
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Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
for happy hardcore
170BPM+ and happy vibe, amen break thrown in for good measure
DjTriquatra::: I find that most the stuff I like is at about 176bpm. Amen break's seem to be more present in more old school stuff.
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Originally posted by Audio Warfare:
If you're talking about modern hardcore then Massive Supersaw leads, Big, distorted, off beat basses, cheesy vocals, Rushy breakdowns with big pad/string/piano sections, a fun, non-serious approach.
Acid lines are used in a lot of the freeform stuff and even some of the mainstream tracks.
Audio Warfare::: I think I do mainly prefer the modern stuff. I definitely like Bonkers better than Happy2beHardcore. H2bH is great but it gets tiring to listen to... Bonkers I can and have listened to for days. What do you mean by "rushy" do you mean, similar to the band Rush? I've noticed some stuff seems to written with a triplet 6/8 feel on top of it.
My favorite tracks off Bonkers - The Next Chapter are:
Sharkey - Never Say Die (Kevin Energy Mix)
Marc Smith & Gammer - Building Shaker (VIP remix) <<<This I think has the 6/8 feel.
Both tracks totally rule. I also like the first track on the first disc:
Darwin feat. Fraz - We're Getting Faster
its a nice intro to the whole thing.
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frozt
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Posted - 2009/07/25 : 06:37:26
quote:
Originally posted by tlr:
hxc = hardcore
hhxc = happy hardcore
Interesting that no one here is familiar with the hxc acronym. I am not sure that it is actually used in reference to the hardcore dance scene, i belive the term hxc primarily is used in the hardcore punk/metal scene. also sxe means straight edge... but **** that. happy hardcore is just such a long name to be typing all the time.
now that thats cleared up...
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when I tell my friends I'm working on a hardcore track they think hardcore metal and it gets very frustrating having to tell them over and over that I mean hardcore techno. I wish it ould get through their heads.
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Originally posted by tlr:
Audio Warfare::: I think I do mainly prefer the modern stuff. I definitely like Bonkers better than Happy2beHardcore. H2bH is great but it gets tiring to listen to... Bonkers I can and have listened to for days. What do you mean by "rushy" do you mean, similar to the band Rush? I've noticed some stuff seems to written with a triplet 6/8 feel on top of it.
:facepalm:
not like the band. it just means something to get you pumped in the rave to go crazy and dance to..
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tlr
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Posted - 2009/07/25 : 06:47:15
oh kewl
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Posted - 2009/07/25 : 17:26:44
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Cheers Storm almost forgot what to do with them lazers for a second ;) My dealers on holdiay, i've had to take up licking toad in the mean time :(
Licking toads is the new MDMA.
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