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Knightmare
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 Posted - 2009/01/18 : 13:01:30
@ smoogie:
I can understand your sentiments allthough I don't share them.
After the 90's the mentality shifted from "hard kicking partytracks" to "wanna-be-the-hardest tracks".
Stuff like industrial hardcore made it's appearance, darkcore expanded it's reach, overdistorting kicks became the norm, etc.
It kind of lost it's innocence, you know?
that said, I can still enjoy my dose of "gabber" on a regular basis but I'm a lot more selective in which tracks I find awesome and which I don't.
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Knightmare
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Posted - 2009/01/18 : 13:02:35
quote:
Originally posted by rosin007:
I thought gabber was a subgrenre of hardcore
it is, although the original hardcore sound is something you just don't hear anymore today.
It all branched off into subgenres.
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catjam
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Posted - 2009/01/18 : 13:19:41
quote:
Originally posted by Knightmare:
@ smoogie:
I can understand your sentiments allthough I don't share them.
After the 90's the mentality shifted from "hard kicking partytracks" to "wanna-be-the-hardest tracks".
Stuff like industrial hardcore made it's appearance, darkcore expanded it's reach, overdistorting kicks became the norm, etc.
It kind of lost it's innocence, you know?
that said, I can still enjoy my dose of "gabber" on a regular basis but I'm a lot more selective in which tracks I find awesome and which I don't.
same here mate im a lot more fussy about what i like now..and can take a while sometimes to find something i really like.
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Samination
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Posted - 2009/01/18 : 15:54:20
Gabber at 160-170BPM? Gabber's 180+ ffs
anything less than that is 'rotterdam' hardcore, and then hardstyle.
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2009/01/18 : 16:19:34
hardcores split into many subgenres and those sub genres have gone off on their own road with their own styles. its hardcore nonetheless.
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lozowen
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Posted - 2009/01/18 : 16:49:56
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Originally posted by Meph751:
generic complaint, people don't really care if you don't like gabber...
yeah true mate lol
gabber is pure, shutup righteous, you broing son of a bitch, gabber is ****in wicked to dance too, nothing like it! gets the blood pumpin, the heart racin and everyone goes crazy for it
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2009/01/18 : 17:01:53
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
hardcores split into many subgenres and those sub genres have gone off on their own road with their own styles. its hardcore nonetheless.
qft!
this site was designed for listeners of hardcore music, not just select styles of hardcore.
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choonland
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Posted - 2009/01/18 : 17:23:55
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Originally posted by Knightmare:
quote:
Originally posted by Righteous9:
Gabber is Gabber, not Hardcore to me... True to the Scene it's not! =(
How odd, it's exactly what I understand under the term HARDcore. I mean, why would "your styles" (that you are so addicted to) need all those fancy other names like freeform and breakbeat hardcore (this one actually adding the name of a different genre to it!) if they are still true hardcore? We don't even use the term gabber around here to indicate that music, we just call it HARDCORE!!! Nobody in Belgium, Germany or holland these days is going to think of anything else but gabber when you bring up that term.
When you look at it in the broader picture my friend, your arguements fail harder than a retard on a nuclear physics examination.
AMEN!
besides, Righteous9, most of real Gabber fans think is the other way around, that we (the happy styles of hardcore) are NOT actually hardcore, because the cheese and the comercial stuff...
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Knightmare
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Posted - 2009/01/18 : 18:42:42
quote:
Originally posted by DjSamination:
Gabber at 160-170BPM? Gabber's 180+ ffs
anything less than that is 'rotterdam' hardcore, and then hardstyle.
I hate it when people use the term "rotterdam hardcore"
it isn't technicly a genre in itself. just a designation of where it's from, it's an obsolete term that was a remnant from the early days of hardcore in holland when A'dam and R'dam dj duked it out with eachother (sort of speak).
And yes, there is slower "gabber". back in the day 180+ was the standard, nowadays there's plenty of stuff that falls short of that pace.
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catjam
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Posted - 2009/01/18 : 18:58:02
quote:
Originally posted by DjSamination:
Gabber at 160-170BPM? Gabber's 180+ ffs
anything less than that is 'rotterdam' hardcore, and then hardstyle.
thats not true DjSamination gabba today has slowed down more than it was years back
today a lot of gabba trax are 160-170BPM..as wel as 180+
its usually the dj who has upped the speed of the track
for example "angerfist - in a million years" is 170BPM normal speed
but is usually played faster by the dj.
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http://rapidshare.com/files/301062605/Hardcore_Havoc.mp3
JTC - Just Another Hardcore Havoc
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Samination
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Posted - 2009/01/18 : 19:35:56
quote:
Originally posted by catjam:
quote:
Originally posted by DjSamination:
Gabber at 160-170BPM? Gabber's 180+ ffs
anything less than that is 'rotterdam' hardcore, and then hardstyle.
thats not true DjSamination gabba today has slowed down more than it was years back
today a lot of gabba trax are 160-170BPM..as wel as 180+
its usually the dj who has upped the speed of the track
for example "angerfist - in a million years" is 170BPM normal speed
but is usually played faster by the dj.
Read Knightmare's post above.
Well It might be my fault for calling it rotterdam hardcore, but as Knightmare said, Gabber used to be above 180BPM (and I want to call stuff slower than 180 for something else but Gabber, but not Hardstyle either)
And Gabba(h), isn't that a person who listen's to Gabber?
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catjam
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Posted - 2009/01/18 : 19:42:41
quote:
Originally posted by DjSamination:
quote:
Originally posted by catjam:
quote:
Originally posted by DjSamination:
Gabber at 160-170BPM? Gabber's 180+ ffs
anything less than that is 'rotterdam' hardcore, and then hardstyle.
thats not true DjSamination gabba today has slowed down more than it was years back
today a lot of gabba trax are 160-170BPM..as wel as 180+
its usually the dj who has upped the speed of the track
for example "angerfist - in a million years" is 170BPM normal speed
but is usually played faster by the dj.
Read Knightmare's post above.
Well It might be my fault for calling it rotterdam hardcore, but as Knightmare said, Gabber used to be above 180BPM
And Gabba(h), isn't that a person who listen's to Gabber?
what do you mean mate...do you mean the spelling Gabba - Gabber
its just 2 different ways its spelt but means the same
pronunciation: English /gæ.bər/, Dutch /xɑbər/), gabba
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabber has some info on gabba if anyone is interested
may not be completely accurate but its good info
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http://rapidshare.com/files/301062605/Hardcore_Havoc.mp3
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TypeR
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Posted - 2009/01/18 : 21:13:29
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Originally posted by rosin007:
I thought gabber was a subgrenre of hardcore
no, it's the other way around.
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Righteous9
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Posted - 2009/01/19 : 01:18:35
quote:
Originally posted by TypeR:
quote:
Originally posted by rosin007:
I thought gabber was a subgrenre of hardcore
no, it's the other way around.
Oldskool is Hardcore, Gabber is a fast trancy version, DnB came later, Trance came later, Happy Hardcore came later, It's all sprung from early Rave Breaks (90-92)! I think that's true??? I grew up to IDM so, I'm like 96-97!
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tru bass
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Posted - 2009/01/19 : 01:26:47
quote:
Originally posted by Righteous9:
quote:
Originally posted by TypeR:
quote:
Originally posted by rosin007:
I thought gabber was a subgrenre of hardcore
no, it's the other way around.
Oldskool is Hardcore, Gabber is a fast trancy version, DnB came later, Trance came later, Happy Hardcore came later, It's all sprung from early Rave Breaks (90-92)! I think that's true??? I grew up to IDM so, I'm like 96-97!
you remind me of an ignorant 95
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