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HaXXor
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 Posted - 2005/02/10 : 14:55:32
I need new active monitors for my Synth...and i dont wanna buy one of these extra expansive ones specialized in this synth...
does anyone have an alternative idea...i need it for entrances and my studio
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Brian K
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 Posted - 2005/02/11 : 01:40:44
I've been pretty happy with m audio monitors
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Sean Apollo
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Posted - 2005/02/11 : 03:20:09
Im looking to upgrade to some real studio monitors this month. I really dont have to much cash but I want somthing that sounds decent so I can get a bit better mixdowns.
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HaXXor
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Posted - 2005/02/11 : 19:38:18
Yeah, real studio Speakees sounds very good and in my opinion also much better than normal audio speakers, especially on stage ;)... but does anyone have an idea wich sort of active monitors...Yamaha Sony Dynacord dB Shure HK whatever... i've really no idea
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Posted - 2005/02/11 : 19:52:27
The company "Bose" have been known to have the best sounding speakers of all time. Try lookin' up somethin about that.
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Posted - 2005/02/11 : 20:33:46
Bose lol, If he wants to monitor with club speakers or something then fair enough. ;)
You would be looking at the likes of KRK, Alesis, Behringer, Tannoy, Mackie, Yamaha, Fostex, Dynaudio, Genelect etc etc for monitors.
The best set of budget budget speakers your gonna get are by KRK, KRK Rokit RP5s(http://www.krksys.com/v3/rokit.asp), You can get them for 215(£) And my Mixdowns are getting great, with these! Steer clear of Behringer truths, Alesis M1 active MK2(Or whatever they're called) and Tannoy reveals etc(I've not read many good things about these monitors and I only read good stuff about the Rokits ;))This is if your on a real tight budget) If not, get yourself some Dynaudios or Mackies or something. Also look at the Yamaha MSP series, I hear good things about them, also I hear Yorkville make some good monitors, but I think they're more for Hiphop etc.
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HaXXor
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Posted - 2005/02/11 : 21:00:52
Thanks m8 =)
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Sean Apollo
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Posted - 2005/02/12 : 17:27:44
quote:
Originally posted by Fraud:
The company "Bose" have been known to have the best sounding speakers of all time. Try lookin' up somethin about that.
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Bose do not make monitors, they make monitor CLUB speakers but not studio monitors.
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RobStar
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Posted - 2005/02/12 : 17:33:26
When you say you don't want extra expensive studio monitors you rule out the mackie HR824's instantaneously (which always seem to be highly favoured).
With that being said, you don't need an ultra expensive monitor with an ultra flat frequency response to achieve tight mixdowns. If your mixdowns suck, you only have your lack of knowledge and experience to blame. Whether you have Mackie HR824's or Yamaha NS10's, what it's going to boil down to is whether your ears and brain are trained well enough.
Now I mentioned the Yamaha NS10s (which were discontinued due to their bad sound mind you;)) for a reason, and this is it:
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The people that hate this little speaker have several reasons for doing so. They say the speaker just doesn't sound good. They say it's too bright, especially in the upper mid frequencies. Actually, the NS10's have a 7dB peak around 1500Hz. Then, of course, there's the bass response problem. There isn't much there to work with. These are all good reasons not to like this speaker, yet it's an important component in most recording studios and is used by many successful recording engineers worldwide. There must be a reason for this.
In spite of the above claims, the speaker has something very funny about it. Mixes made on this speaker usually translate well to other speaker systems. There is a simple rule of thumb, "if it sounds good on the NS10's, it will sound good on anything." Well, maybe, and maybe not. It all depends on whether or not you know the "secret."
The secret in working with the NS10's, or any speaker for that matter, is knowing what the speaker sounds like. It's no different than knowing what other studio equipment sounds like. Compressors all sound different. EQ's all sound different. Microphones and mic preamps all sound different. Everything in your studio has a "sound."
The amount of producers and mix engineers who swear by these speakers is amazing, even when they admit they have a "bad/coloured sound". Now you could pick up a pair of NS10's for less then the cheapeast monitors mentioned here. Hell, even Darren Tate uses them:
The point I'm trying to make is don't believe people who say "I've heard bad things about these monitors, so stay clear of them etc etc" .
Why shouldn't you believe them?
Because it's never the monitors fault. It's yours;)
Now with that being said I own a pair of Behringer Truth B2031a's and love them. I know people who swear by Alesis M1s, and others who wouldn't have anything less then their $4000+ Genelec 1031As. What I would advise you to do is take a CD that you know really well, and try it on as many speakers as possible. Ideally, get the speaker that you think sounds best.
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Posted - 2005/02/12 : 20:20:30
Does anyone know anything about fostex monitors? Im looking at a pair now as follows...
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=rec/search/detail/base_pid/600680/
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HaXXor
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Posted - 2005/02/13 : 00:16:30
i think a friend of me got a pair of those fostex Speakees and they sound good...
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Posted - 2005/02/14 : 06:51:15
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Originally posted by DJApollo:
Does anyone know anything about fostex monitors? Im looking at a pair now as follows...
I have Fostex monitors, they rock.
These are the ones I have, obviously I only have two of them... they are the loudest most clear (sound wise) monitors I have ever heard... I have never had them distort or get crappy at any volume and I have tried turning them up as loud as they would go and I could not even handle the volume... so I have no idea how loud they go :)
http://www.fostexinternational.com/docs/products/nf_series.shtml
If your interested.
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Flyin
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 Posted - 2005/02/14 : 15:58:38
I'll always swear by my Alesis M1 Active MK2's
Do the job for me ;)
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Posted - 2005/02/15 : 01:20:45
How much do they run?
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Posted - 2005/02/15 : 09:14:17
Specs for Alesis M1 Active MK2's :
Low Frequency Driver: 6.5" non-woven carbon fiber with Santoprene surround and dual magnet shielded configuration
High Frequency Driver: 1" silk dome with medium viscosity ferrofluid coolant and dual magnet shielded configuration
Crossover: 1500Hz, 8th-order, 48dB/octave filters
Input Impedance: 20k_ balanced, 10k_ unbalanced
LF Filter: 2nd order, "optimal Q" high pass, +1dB boost@50Hz
LF Amplifier: 75 watts, 8_ load
LF Amp Distortion:less than 0.03% thd @ 30w lf amp slew rate:<>19V/µsec
LF Amp S/N Ratio:>110dB, ref. 60W @ 8_, A-wtg., 1kHz
HF Amplifier: 25 watts, 4_ load
HF Amp Distortion:less than 0.06% thd @ rated power
lf amp slew rate less than 9V/µsec
HF Amp S/N Ratio:>112dB @ rated output
Frequency Range: 38 Hz - 23.5 kHz (-10dB point)
Connectors: Combination XLR-1/4" jack with input level control
Dimensions: (WxHxD) 8.5"x15"x9.75" (381mm x 216mm x 248mm)
Weight: 19.5 lbs. (8.9kg) each
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Posted - 2005/02/15 : 09:35:56
I've heard good things about the Tapco S8
Made by Mackie but only slightly more expensive than the Alesis M1s
http://www.tapcogear.com/products/s8/
£299 for a pair at turnkey:
http://www.turnkey.co.uk/tkweb/stockdetail.jsp?sku=TAPC-S8&context=WEB
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