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Elliott
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 Posted - 2013/03/01 : 20:53:51
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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I've heard so many WIPs that have just been de-fucking-stroyed from start to finish by the limiter.
By that you mean most Hardcore? :P
Amen to that!
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Elliott
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Posted - 2013/03/01 : 20:57:37
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Originally posted by Charger:
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Yeah, shockingly even as of 10.0.9, the template that FLS loads by default for new tracks has a limiter on the master. I've heard so many WIPs that have just been de-fucking-stroyed from start to finish by the limiter. I really hope they change that in FL11 for everyone's benefit!
Anyway, I've got a track that's coming along nicely and will be finished pretty soon. If I'm currently peaking at 0 (which I am -- probably slightly over actually), I can just decrease the master track by -6db or whatever, right? I don't particularly want to adjust individual levels because they're all good as they are.
Sorry for the late reply. Please do not reduce the master track to -6 dB directly.
What will be more appropriate is to select all the tracks and submix buses and pull down the faders all at the same time until the peak level of the loudest part of your track reaches around -6 dB max.
This will ensure that your mixdown will have a true headroom of 6 dB.
The reason is because pulling down the master track to -6 dB directly (correct me if I'm wrong) the overall noise floor will increase by 6 dB at the end of the mastering process, resulting in a noisy master.
Yeah, after I thought about it I realised it might not work as well as I thought.
The levels could probably use some individual adjustment anyway. I mean, it all sounds badass while I'm arranging and composing etc. but when I listen in mixing mode later, I'll probably want to change a few things.
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Posted - 2013/03/01 : 22:36:19
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Originally posted by Elliott:
Yeah, shockingly even as of 10.0.9, the template that FLS loads by default for new tracks has a limiter on the master. I've heard so many WIPs that have just been de-fucking-stroyed from start to finish by the limiter.
Jesus, I remember this.
Before I got monitors I remember spending 4 hours on a track then realizing it had a limtier on the main channel, then having to go through and re-mixdown EVERYTHING.
Why the hell would they do that? Ugh.
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Posted - 2013/03/04 : 14:34:58
http://soundcloud.com/hellomynameiselliott/elliott-starstruck-wip
This is the track I'm planning to send over when it's finished. I'll probably send it as a couple of separate tracks cos I imagine you could do a far better job of balancing them than I could (that's only the second tune I've done and even if it wasn't, I have hearing damage from years of abusing my ears :/)
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2013/03/04 : 14:37:48
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http://soundcloud.com/hellomynameiselliott/elliott-starstruck-wip
This is the track I'm planning to send over when it's finished. I'll probably send it as a couple of separate tracks cos I imagine you could do a far better job of balancing them than I could (that's only the second tune I've done and even if it wasn't, I have hearing damage from years of abusing my ears :/)
Sounds like a 'Happy' Hardcore (90's) tune but with modern production.
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Elliott
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Posted - 2013/03/04 : 14:58:18
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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Originally posted by Elliott:
http://soundcloud.com/hellomynameiselliott/elliott-starstruck-wip
This is the track I'm planning to send over when it's finished. I'll probably send it as a couple of separate tracks cos I imagine you could do a far better job of balancing them than I could (that's only the second tune I've done and even if it wasn't, I have hearing damage from years of abusing my ears :/)
Sounds like a 'Happy' Hardcore (90's) tune but with modern production.
Is that a good thing? :P
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2013/03/04 : 15:53:52
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Originally posted by Elliott:
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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Originally posted by Elliott:
http://soundcloud.com/hellomynameiselliott/elliott-starstruck-wip
This is the track I'm planning to send over when it's finished. I'll probably send it as a couple of separate tracks cos I imagine you could do a far better job of balancing them than I could (that's only the second tune I've done and even if it wasn't, I have hearing damage from years of abusing my ears :/)
Sounds like a 'Happy' Hardcore (90's) tune but with modern production.
Is that a good thing? :P
It is.
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Posted - 2013/03/04 : 16:33:44
I remember this. Sometimes things would just sound awful especially with pads and sometimes leads then realised it was due to the limiter on the master fx channel when you start a new project. Got used to turning it off now.
It's very nice of you doing a free mastering service. That's one area I lack with. I don't know the steps to mastering or what's involved. I usually just get my mixdown the best I can.
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Elliott
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Posted - 2013/03/04 : 16:50:16
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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Originally posted by Elliott:
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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Originally posted by Elliott:
http://soundcloud.com/hellomynameiselliott/elliott-starstruck-wip
This is the track I'm planning to send over when it's finished. I'll probably send it as a couple of separate tracks cos I imagine you could do a far better job of balancing them than I could (that's only the second tune I've done and even if it wasn't, I have hearing damage from years of abusing my ears :/)
Sounds like a 'Happy' Hardcore (90's) tune but with modern production.
Is that a good thing? :P
It is.
That's cool :). I'm not producing with any fixed ideas about what I'm trying to create at the moment so comments like that are really interesting!
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DJ Hellfury
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Posted - 2013/03/04 : 21:14:38
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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Originally posted by Elliott:
http://soundcloud.com/hellomynameiselliott/elliott-starstruck-wip
This is the track I'm planning to send over when it's finished. I'll probably send it as a couple of separate tracks cos I imagine you could do a far better job of balancing them than I could (that's only the second tune I've done and even if it wasn't, I have hearing damage from years of abusing my ears :/)
Sounds like a 'Happy' Hardcore (90's) tune but with modern production.
Sounds like a new version of Trixxy, I like Trixxy. Fav.
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Charger
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Posted - 2013/03/04 : 22:13:08
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Originally posted by Elliott:
http://soundcloud.com/hellomynameiselliott/elliott-starstruck-wip
This is the track I'm planning to send over when it's finished. I'll probably send it as a couple of separate tracks cos I imagine you could do a far better job of balancing them than I could (that's only the second tune I've done and even if it wasn't, I have hearing damage from years of abusing my ears :/)
Sure, fire over the links when you're ready.
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Elliott
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Posted - 2013/03/05 : 00:24:47
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Originally posted by DJ Hellfury:
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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Originally posted by Elliott:
http://soundcloud.com/hellomynameiselliott/elliott-starstruck-wip
This is the track I'm planning to send over when it's finished. I'll probably send it as a couple of separate tracks cos I imagine you could do a far better job of balancing them than I could (that's only the second tune I've done and even if it wasn't, I have hearing damage from years of abusing my ears :/)
Sounds like a 'Happy' Hardcore (90's) tune but with modern production.
Sounds like a new version of Trixxy, I like Trixxy. Fav.
Thanks a lot guys! I'm trying hard not to fall into producing generic UK hardcore so those comments make me happy.
Thanks, Charger, I'm gonna prepare it all as soon as I have time. :)
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Posted - 2013/03/05 : 10:48:19
Wondering if charger still offers mastering services when I send him whole sets with at least 1 hour duration time :P
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The Dopeman
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Posted - 2013/03/05 : 11:58:39
i have 4-5 tracks that need live brought back to them i found a load of old tapes with a lot of old skool bouncy techno and gabber i recorded onto tape from vinyl when i was 14 i was gonna buy a tape to mp3 thingymajigger (don't know what the hell they call the thing) but my uncle has one so i gave him all the old tapes and he's uploading them as wav files & sending me mediafire links so i can dl them but some of the quality is pretty poor would you be able to make them sound a bit better??
i'll hopefully have some of them by late afternoon early evening time
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2013/03/05 : 12:20:27
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i have 4-5 tracks that need live brought back to them i found a load of old tapes with a lot of old skool bouncy techno and gabber i recorded onto tape from vinyl when i was 14 i was gonna buy a tape to mp3 thingymajigger (don't know what the hell they call the thing) but my uncle has one so i gave him all the old tapes and he's uploading them as wav files & sending me mediafire links so i can dl them but some of the quality is pretty poor would you be able to make them sound a bit better??
i'll hopefully have some of them by late afternoon early evening time
There is very little you can do to be honest. A bad recording is a bad recording. Although you can add things like bass etc. If you consider that an improvement.
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