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Dys7
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 Posted - 2011/11/19 : 23:58:30
So I've recently started messing around with FL studio, and I'm wondering, how do you guys go about writing songs? Not FL itself, but in general.
Do you write the drop and buildup first, and when youre finished, craft an intro/outro around that, or do you write it in the order of the finished product?
Do you write the basslines first, then craft a melody around that, or vice versa?
Where do you get your vocal samples? I know a few places, but what about you, personally?
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2011/11/20 : 00:35:59
I almost always start with the main melody, then build everything around that. Although that is because I'm usually writing that style of song. Otherwise it depends on what the most distinguising feature of the track is. If the song was based mostly around the rhythm/drums then i would start with that etc... Although that's just what makes sense to me.
Regarding vocal samples, i never use any anymore but if i did they would have to be original (or given to me by the owner) otherwise i would have no interest in using them (hence i never use any).
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Dys7
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Posted - 2011/11/20 : 01:13:50
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
I almost always start with the main melody, then build everything around that. Although that is because I'm usually writing that style of song. Otherwise it depends on what the most distinguising feature of the track is. If the song was based mostly around the rhythm/drums then i would start with that etc... Although that's just what makes sense to me.
Regarding vocal samples, i never use any anymore but if i did they would have to be original (or given to me by the owner) otherwise i would have no interest in using them (hence i never use any).
What I meant were straight samples, like "Drop the bomb!" "Rock this house!" "Can you feel it?" etc.
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2011/11/20 : 01:17:58
personally i start whereever my idea starts
with dance music that tends to be an idea for a good breakdown and buildup (the middle of the song basically)
when i'm writting chillout I never know which end of the song i'm making till i've finished it and the whole process feels much more fulfilling and enjoyable.
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Dopeman
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Posted - 2011/11/20 : 01:35:22
i can't say i have experience but all i do is create everything 1st (kicks, hats, basslines and melodies) then i just biuld from there and add things as i go along
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2011/11/20 : 02:05:41
quote:
Originally posted by Dys7:
quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
I almost always start with the main melody, then build everything around that. Although that is because I'm usually writing that style of song. Otherwise it depends on what the most distinguising feature of the track is. If the song was based mostly around the rhythm/drums then i would start with that etc... Although that's just what makes sense to me.
Regarding vocal samples, i never use any anymore but if i did they would have to be original (or given to me by the owner) otherwise i would have no interest in using them (hence i never use any).
What I meant were straight samples, like "Drop the bomb!" "Rock this house!" "Can you feel it?" etc.
Them too.
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Dys7
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Posted - 2011/11/20 : 02:08:16
Alright, thanks.
One more question, what's each of your favorite VST's?
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Quicksilver
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Posted - 2011/11/20 : 02:47:21
I usually go one of two ways: Just create a beat with a bass, making it sound fat.. or I make the main lead or melody, and build the beat around that.
My favourite VST is Sylenth1 but close seconds are z3ta 2 and Nexus.
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Dante
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Posted - 2011/11/20 : 02:57:13
Don't have a solution really, I can start out with almost anything ;p
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Dys7
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Posted - 2011/11/20 : 03:00:18
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Originally posted by Quicksilver:
I usually go one of two ways: Just create a beat with a bass, making it sound fat.. or I make the main lead or melody, and build the beat around that.
My favourite VST is Sylenth1 but close seconds are z3ta 2 and Nexus.
Oh my god, do all VST's cost almost as much as the program itself?
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2011/11/20 : 03:00:28
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Originally posted by Quicksilver:
I usually go one of two ways: Just create a beat with a bass, making it sound fat.. or I make the main lead or melody, and build the beat around that.
You should be an MC.
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Karthy
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Posted - 2011/11/20 : 03:51:24
I start with anything, I have so many FLP's that I don't know what to do with them all. I just piss about, like create a piano melody one day, leave it for several months then come back to it with ideas months later and create a track out of it. I sometimes do the same with percussion, I'll create an FLP with a nice loops, come back to it months later and create a tune out of it.
There are downsides to this though, I can have loads of FLP's, go through them all, and end up idealess. Being left idealess, but that's the time you start pissing about making random melody's / basses / perc loops again. As of now I have probably 20+ FLP's that are just 2 bars or so, if that, and one day they will (hopefully) be all finished tracks. ;)
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cruelcore1
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Posted - 2011/11/20 : 10:20:13
Put ideas (melodies and stuff) on the table first. Then start doing real producing and complex sound editing. Once you loose enough energy "producing" you'll hardly be able to make other parts that might be missing.
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Shades
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Posted - 2011/11/20 : 11:36:10
i always start with the kick & bass, after all they drive the tune, then work the chord progression & melody from the bassline.
about samples, in my experience they are a lifetime of collected tit bits...
think you ones you're on about are on a megabass sample pack
best vst.... well i always use zeta, fatsyn & sylenth in one way or another
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Lilark
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Posted - 2011/11/23 : 16:40:11
quote:
Originally posted by Shades:
i always start with the kick & bass, after all they drive the tune, then work the chord progression & melody from the bassline.
about samples, in my experience they are a lifetime of collected tit bits...
think you ones you're on about are on a megabass sample pack
best vst.... well i always use zeta, fatsyn & sylenth in one way or another
Personally I do the same, but it really depends on who's producing. Some prefer melody first, others prefer the bass. Sylenth1 is a really good one, haven't gotten the chance to try out Fatsyn but I've heard it works well.
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Lorenzo.Tweakn
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Posted - 2011/11/23 : 20:11:34
the first thing i write is the bassline, from that the lead riff, the bassline & chord progression of the lead & pads usually follow the same root note.
a good vocal sample pack to use would be http://hsprojectmusic.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=63&product_id=77 roughly $32USD for a shitload of single shot vox.
as for VST's, i can do everything using sylenth1 & cubic audio s1(best free piano vst)
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