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Changing Key of a Sample ?

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Revs
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Posted - 2009/12/12 :  17:03:45  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Revs's homepage  Reply with quote
I can move it in the piano roll ? What ? You cannot move samples in the piano roll, can you ?! Oo



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Posted - 2009/12/12 :  17:22:08  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
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I can move it in the piano roll ? What ? You cannot move samples in the piano roll, can you ?! Oo



If you load it into a sampler then yes, of course. That is the entire point of a sampler.


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Posted - 2009/12/12 :  17:35:50  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Revs's homepage  Reply with quote
So can I do that with Logic?



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Posted - 2009/12/12 :  17:41:34  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
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So can I do that with Logic?



Yes. If you've not been using a sampler so far how have you been managing with kicks and percussion and that kinda thing?


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Edited by - Hard2Get on 2009/12/12 17:42:13
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Posted - 2009/12/12 :  17:48:04  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Revs's homepage  Reply with quote
Is sampler = sequencer ? I'm confused …

I don't change the key of kicks.. I just place them somewhere on the field, layer them, etc etc.. and that's it actually.




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Posted - 2009/12/12 :  17:55:18  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Revs:
Is sampler = sequencer ? I'm confused …

I don't change the key of kicks.. I just place them somewhere on the field, layer them, etc etc.. and that's it actually.



No it's not. Logic has it's own sampler.


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Posted - 2009/12/12 :  18:14:16  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit näkkk's homepage  Reply with quote
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Well if 1 cent = 1 note, it would be easy, but I don't think it's like that. I reckon it's unregular.


What's a cent? A hundredth of whatever :P (1 dollar = 100 cents etc). In this case it's a 100th of a semitone, thus 100 cents = 1 semitone, so it IS easy ;p

If you pitch by %, then going one semitone up means the new frequency is ~5.9463% (you can calculate it for yourself by finding the 12th root of 2 ;) 12th because there are 12 semitones to an octave) higher than your original note. Note that it works multiplicatively, not additively, which means going two semitones up is 5.9463%^2 = 12.2462% higher, instead of 11.8926% which it would be if you took 5.9463 + 5.9463.

So to increase by x semitones, increase pitch by 5.9463^x %.


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Posted - 2009/12/12 :  18:15:29  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
What just happened.



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Posted - 2009/12/12 :  18:23:12  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit näkkk's homepage  Reply with quote
I explained some pretty basic relationships between math and music.

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Alright, so how much cents would it take to change this sample played in A to: C, D and G ?

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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Revs:
Is sampler = sequencer ? I'm confused …

I don't change the key of kicks.. I just place them somewhere on the field, layer them, etc etc.. and that's it actually.



No it's not. Logic has it's own sampler.



Is that an application appart ? In Logic Studio ? Because I only have Logic Pro.
You know, like PhotoShop and ImageReady also come together.


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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Revs:
Alright, so how much cents would it take to change this sample played in A to: C, D and G ?

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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Revs:
Is sampler = sequencer ? I'm confused …

I don't change the key of kicks.. I just place them somewhere on the field, layer them, etc etc.. and that's it actually.



No it's not. Logic has it's own sampler.



Is that an application appart ? In Logic Studio ? Because I only have Logic Pro.
You know, like PhotoShop and ImageReady also come together.


I've never used logic, as someone who uses it. Honestly it's one of the most basic functions of the program so it won't be difficult to work out.


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Posted - 2009/12/12 :  21:01:45  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Revs's homepage  Reply with quote
Hmm I'll have to find the sampler then, everything I know is the sample editor but you cannot move the sample on the piano roll :S



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Alright, so how much cents would it take to change this sample played in A to: C, D and G ?


You could just count semitones on a keyboard and multiply by 100 :p

A -> C: 300 up/900 down
A -> D: 500 up/700 down
A -> G: 200 down/1000 up





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Posted - 2009/12/13 :  16:14:22  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Revs's homepage  Reply with quote
Alright so one note = 200 cents, let's see if it works … :)



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Posted - 2009/12/13 :  16:35:38  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Dain-Ja's homepage  Reply with quote
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Hmm I'll have to find the sampler then, everything I know is the sample editor but you cannot move the sample on the piano roll :S



Logic's sampler is called EXS24 I believe


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