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Motiv
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Hello, I am new to the forums, I hope some of you guys can help me with producing Happy Hardcore.
I have been producing Dubstep, Drum & Bass and Jungle for about a year and a half now.
But recently I have been listening to a bit of Happy Hardcore.

So I thought I would have a go at producing

I have found the drum programming very easy so far, however I am getting very confused with the Melody, I spent last night looking for videos and guides, I copied a few guides on youtube.

But when I make my own melody I doesnt sound too good.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

What are the rules of making Melodies?

Motiv :D


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Ionosphere
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quote:
Originally posted by Motiv:

What are the rules of making Melodies?

Motiv :D



Rules? ....didn't know there were any. Just make something up that you like, ie; Compose. ;)


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i think the easiset way to make melodies if just make some chords and just work from that

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Hard2Get
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Well where new stuff is concerned, create the most boring mind numbing repetative rubbish you can think of and there you go. Yeah as you can tell i don't like new stuff...



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Motiv
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Its just I read somewhere, that the best way to create a good melody was to break a chord to make a "broken chord" using either major chords for happy, upbeat sounds and minor for a emotional sound, I think this guide was for trance but I thought it would still apply.

also are there many producers on the forums?

Cheers
Motiv :D


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Motiv
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Posted - 2009/11/13 :  17:04:43  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Motiv's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
Well where new stuff is concerned, create the most boring mind numbing repetative rubbish you can think of and there you go. Yeah as you can tell i don't like new stuff...



Ahh Old skool!

I really want to make something different, I am going to try slicing some breaks to layer with the kick and hihat!

Motiv :D


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Posted - 2009/11/13 :  17:04:50  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Ionosphere's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
Well where new stuff is concerned, create the most boring mind numbing repetative rubbish you can think of and there you go. Yeah as you can tell i don't like new stuff...



....

or, rip off a riff that's already been done to death by hundreds of tracks in the past and change a few notes to make it sound different.

This is the other currently fashionable way to do it.

Of course, the 'different' notes that you chose will be the ones that previous producers didn't like because they're crap. They are musically unpleasing....

....but that doesn't stop people these days from doing it.

I could be wrong.


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Motiv
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I know, il take the chords that have been used over and over and arpeggiate it ;)
That will make it sound fresh and new lol

Motiv :D




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quote:
Originally posted by Motiv:
I know, il take the chords that have been used over and over and arpeggiate it ;)
That will make it sound fresh and new lol

Motiv :D



I disagree 'cos that's already been done to death. Try something original. You never know, it might work.


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Motiv
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Posted - 2009/11/13 :  17:37:57  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Motiv's homepage
yh mate! I was being sarcastic
hence the lol.




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quote:
Originally posted by Motiv:


also are there many producers on the forums?





producers are always popping in for a chat.

I produce some amateur sorta stuff. Joey riot, cotts, fracus, sharkey, oli g, entity and various others also come and go.


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Motiv
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Posted - 2009/11/13 :  17:47:00  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Motiv's homepage
Nice one! because I need all the help I can get :D
What DAW do you use?




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quote:
Originally posted by Motiv:
yh mate! I was being sarcastic
hence the lol.



....ah, then why ask about 'rules'? I get confused easily these days....


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Motiv
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Posted - 2009/11/13 :  17:57:30  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Motiv's homepage
Because I cant seem to make a decent melody, if I know how to make a good one, then I can start getting creative :D



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Just do what you'd do in the other genres. Music theory applies equally to all music.



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quote:
Originally posted by Ionosphere:
quote:
Originally posted by Motiv:
yh mate! I was being sarcastic
hence the lol.



....ah, then why ask about 'rules'? I get confused easily these days....



Please dont confuse the elderly Motiv ;)


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