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Meathead
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 Posted - 2009/06/11 : 12:34:21
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Originally posted by Samination:
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Originally posted by Meathead:
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Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
i didnt actually see any questions :P i saw a statement
Exactly. And a statement totally unrelated to filesharing yet that somehow is where this debate eded up. Strange.
What i got from this statement: it's becoming ever more difficult for up and coming producers to get their tracks on compilations/labels.
The conclusion everyone else seemingly arrived at: Oh Noez!!! Filesharing is killing teh scenez!11!!1ONE!!!
Even if I didnt mention it, people would still have this in mind.
I doubt it seeing as how the original post was in no way whatsoever related to filesharing
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Samination
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Posted - 2009/06/11 : 12:36:16
sure you jest?
well, propably depends on what you think does the most damage, filesharing or big labels sucking up all glamour?
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/06/11 : 12:40:23
Jest?
There was no mention of filesharing though? And i doubt very much that up and coming producers not "making it" in hardcore or making it on compilations is at all connected to filesharing. So i really dont see how you came to that conclusion. Did you even read the original post?
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2009/06/11 : 12:46:59
maybe smaller artists like the way it is. less commercialized they are, less their stuff gets file shared.
i dunno...
what was silvers point, again?
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Samination
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Posted - 2009/06/11 : 13:22:26
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Originally posted by Meathead:
Jest?
There was no mention of filesharing though? And i doubt very much that up and coming producers not "making it" in hardcore or making it on compilations is at all connected to filesharing. So i really dont see how you came to that conclusion. Did you even read the original post?
I have read it, but I wasnt the one who started the filesharing talk. Did you even my original reply? I just expressed that the labels should have consentrated on consumers (singles) instead of djs (vinyls)
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/06/11 : 13:27:13
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Originally posted by Samination:
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Originally posted by Meathead:
Jest?
There was no mention of filesharing though? And i doubt very much that up and coming producers not "making it" in hardcore or making it on compilations is at all connected to filesharing. So i really dont see how you came to that conclusion. Did you even read the original post?
I have read it, but I wasnt the one who started the filesharing talk. Did you even my original reply? I just expressed that the labels should have consentrated on consumers (singles) instead of djs (vinyls)
Yes i did and fair point it was actually Influx who started that shite, although i didnt say you were the first to mention filesharing :p . You may not have started the filesharing debate but you did blame a completely unrelated entity also.
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2009/06/11 : 13:37:18
if people go back to the original statement
the way it reads is about making it as a new producer.
Love (happy / UK) hardcore? Starting out producing or DJing or both?
making a ton of great tracks but not really making any headway into the scene?
So what is the future for artists and the up 'n' comers?
but how to do you get noticed?
its about who you put your trust in, where you put your money, where you send your music to get promoted...
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/06/11 : 13:42:22
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
maybe smaller artists like the way it is. less commercialized they are, less their stuff gets file shared.
i dunno...
what was silvers point, again?
Something about filseharing evidentally 
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Posted - 2009/06/11 : 15:01:21
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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2009/06/11 : 15:09:10
How did the big doggs make a name for themselves? They started their own labels, events & radio. They pushed a scene forward which, @ the time, really was a hit or a miss.
They pushed it forward for the love of their scene & wanted everyone else to jump onboard & be part of the action. Isn't this how all scenes kick off.
Stop trying to suck up to the big doggs & be part of their albums, labels, events, ect. Get the finger out & do what all these guys done in the first place! Afterall, by the time you do start to make a name for yourself a lot of these guys will be finished with the scene anyway.
Do what you want to do & don't stop pushing forward 
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Mortis
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Posted - 2009/06/11 : 15:36:50
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How did the big doggs make a name for themselves? They started their own labels, events & radio. They pushed a scene forward which, @ the time, really was a hit or a miss.
They pushed it forward for the love of their scene & wanted everyone else to jump onboard & be part of the action. Isn't this how all scenes kick off.
Stop trying to suck up to the big doggs & be part of their albums, labels, events, ect. Get the finger out & do what all these guys done in the first place! Afterall, by the time you do start to make a name for yourself a lot of these guys will be finished with the scene anyway.
Do what you want to do & don't stop pushing forward
Well said. This is the mentality that people need to adopt or nothing will ever change.
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Posted - 2009/06/11 : 15:53:31
I buy everything from online.
For a simple reason.
Big large labels don't control the sites I buy off, and tell who and who can't be on it. I buy the music I like, and don't buy the music I don't.
It's simple.
Sure people will file share, that's their choice. I agree with sharing files that aren't being sold anymore, and won't be sold by the company more. They aren't making money, so why stop people from getting songs they can't anywhere else? All music should be heard, but should be bought from the label while they still sell it.
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Revs
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Posted - 2009/06/11 : 16:09:45
Filesharing has also it's good sides : It allows small DJ's who don't have much money to get tracks for mixing. If you don't have money, and can't buy any tracks, how do you proove your skills ?
However, I don't think it's okay when people who can affoard it fileshare them, and the thing actually is, you don't know who can affoard it, and who can't.
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Posted - 2009/06/11 : 16:40:43
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2009/06/11 : 17:01:09
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Originally posted by DJ Revs:
Filesharing has also it's good sides : It allows small DJ's who don't have much money to get tracks for mixing. If you don't have money, and can't buy any tracks, how do you proove your skills ?
im confused....how can they show their skills if they are downloading mp3s?
this suggests to me that they have a timecode based system or cd decks - and in that case, if they can afford that - they can afford to buy the tunes!
at what....£1.30 a tune? thats not asking much, at all.
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