Mortis Advanced Member
United Kingdom
7,493 posts Joined: May, 2004
341 hardcore releases
Posted - 2009/06/03 : 13:15:15
quote:Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
pfftt money doesnt keep you alive
food and water do. both of which can be easily stolen and grown..
How do you grow water? I'd like to know because I'm sick of paying United Utilities.
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Mortis Advanced Member
United Kingdom
7,493 posts Joined: May, 2004
341 hardcore releases
Posted - 2009/06/03 : 13:38:48
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whittle1 Advanced Member
United Kingdom
3,191 posts Joined: Jan, 2005
25 hardcore releases
Posted - 2009/06/03 : 15:34:08
Looks lame...but then again I've never been a fan of these Billy Bunter CD's.
Ramos, Supreme & UFO - Terminator (Recon Remix)!! Can't believe this is on here. Only track I've been looking out for on a compilation, and it turns out to be on the one I would never consider buying.
Wilky Banned
United Kingdom
6,198 posts Joined: Mar, 2008
Posted - 2009/06/03 : 21:18:11
quote:Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
quote:Originally posted by Wilky:
quote:Originally posted by Meathead:
quote:Originally posted by Wilky:
quote:Originally posted by Meathead:
quote:Originally posted by Wilky:
havnt got a clue how any of you can call a cd when you havnt heard the tracks.. wtf
who gives a shite if they're remixes of commercial tracks... you seem to forget hardcore (this type anyway) is under the same umbrella...
why do u think these albums are crammed with tunes that are in the charts?
coz thats who its aimed at, the regular chart buyer.. if they see names on it they recognise... they will buy it.. its called business
Who said anything about it being bad business? I said i wouldnt be buying it because of the chart remixes, simple as that. I dont want to hear this stuff so i wont buy it, simple.
Its actually very good business putting commercial tunes on a cd, we've been through this many a time with CLXH and the new Bonkers im sure, but i didnt say anything about it being bad business. And i can call a cd without hearing the tracks on it because i have had the misfortune of hearing the original commercial tracks that are to be on this album. There's no way i wanna hear them again at 170+.
Fair enough?
well put like that who am i to argue otherwise?
Wilky.
An arguement is exactly what i was expecting
Ok:
These labels that put commercial wank core albums out dont give 2 shites what forum members give a shit, as its the money that counts, not opinions (or what dribble you type)
Money, its a clever thing, makes the world go round, makes the human race survive, makes you and i work to keep our family alive MONEY IS WHAT KEEPS HARDCORE ALIVE get used to or go hang urself, nuff love
unfortunately money keeps you Alive...
We cant change that, though...
Just as we cant change the same effect money has on hardcore. But one side of hardcore isnt dependant on money, which is why its expressed as a movement and all about survival. Listen to the 'Freeform will never die' tune, thaat will express is all. Not all hardcore has to be commercialised, but nowadays, more and more is.
PS. Meatheads right!! Wilky, sometimes it sounds like your dipping your toes into topics you dont understand..
the point you dont grasp is there isnt such thing as underground hardcore.. the stuff thats on this album is the popular stuff of the moment and what pays the bills.
90's hardcore had remixes and rip off's, whats the difference in 2009, whay cnt it still be done today?
acidfluxxbass Advanced Member
United Kingdom
5,000 posts Joined: Apr, 2008
Posted - 2009/06/03 : 22:35:02
quote:Originally posted by Wilky:
quote:Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
quote:Originally posted by Wilky:
quote:Originally posted by Meathead:
quote:Originally posted by Wilky:
quote:Originally posted by Meathead:
quote:Originally posted by Wilky:
havnt got a clue how any of you can call a cd when you havnt heard the tracks.. wtf
who gives a shite if they're remixes of commercial tracks... you seem to forget hardcore (this type anyway) is under the same umbrella...
why do u think these albums are crammed with tunes that are in the charts?
coz thats who its aimed at, the regular chart buyer.. if they see names on it they recognise... they will buy it.. its called business
Who said anything about it being bad business? I said i wouldnt be buying it because of the chart remixes, simple as that. I dont want to hear this stuff so i wont buy it, simple.
Its actually very good business putting commercial tunes on a cd, we've been through this many a time with CLXH and the new Bonkers im sure, but i didnt say anything about it being bad business. And i can call a cd without hearing the tracks on it because i have had the misfortune of hearing the original commercial tracks that are to be on this album. There's no way i wanna hear them again at 170+.
Fair enough?
well put like that who am i to argue otherwise?
Wilky.
An arguement is exactly what i was expecting
Ok:
These labels that put commercial wank core albums out dont give 2 shites what forum members give a shit, as its the money that counts, not opinions (or what dribble you type)
Money, its a clever thing, makes the world go round, makes the human race survive, makes you and i work to keep our family alive MONEY IS WHAT KEEPS HARDCORE ALIVE get used to or go hang urself, nuff love
unfortunately money keeps you Alive...
We cant change that, though...
Just as we cant change the same effect money has on hardcore. But one side of hardcore isnt dependant on money, which is why its expressed as a movement and all about survival. Listen to the 'Freeform will never die' tune, thaat will express is all. Not all hardcore has to be commercialised, but nowadays, more and more is.
PS. Meatheads right!! Wilky, sometimes it sounds like your dipping your toes into topics you dont understand..
the point you dont grasp is there isnt such thing as underground hardcore.. the stuff thats on this album is the popular stuff of the moment and what pays the bills.
90's hardcore had remixes and rip off's, whats the difference in 2009, whay cnt it still be done today?
depends how you look at underground hardcore..
i'd consider hardcore not made for the purpose making money in a business sence to be underground. Every artist expects to make money, but only to continue operating. AATW however makes money to expand and do whats needed to have a maximum market.
Hardcore is based around 2 different things, theres no solid line, but some albums can be catagorised. Hardcore to suit the majority. Hardcore to suit the minority. Freeform suits the minority. Most underground stuff does. Kniteforce songs do. ect. Clubland changes the nature of hardcore to suit as many people as possible.
Jimmygoat Average Member
Bahamas
225 posts Joined: Apr, 2003
Posted - 2009/06/04 : 12:06:54
quote:Originally posted by MAtRiCks:
A D&G Remix!? AMAZING! I Really hope they go all out on this.
This feels like the 80's are back full force, I'm so happy.
I think this repetition is what has eaten away at the commercial dance- this is almost an annual event, sample and loop 80's track and fit it into the same formular (Eric Pryds 'Call on me'+ any number of things that came after it). Same as in hardcore really. The retro trend is always 20 years behind (in the 80's it was the sixties the nineties the 70's, the naughties the 80's- guess whats having a proper comeback in 2012, durrrrrr)
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