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Helter Skelter - Hardcore 2007 -The New Generation

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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2007/07/17 :  00:12:30  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit warped_candykid's homepage  Reply with quote
You cant complain about what Helter Skelter was doing, grabbing diffrent forms of EDM and putting them on a cd. I think the cd should have been labled a diffrent name seeing as each mix offers something diffrent, disc 3 being full on Hardcore, so the title is a bit mis-leading, but there is something for everyone ranging between the 3 cds. I like the look of cd 3, "Take Me Away" being my stand out track, always love Storm & Euphony's sound. Still debating to buy it or not.

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Edited by - warped_candykid on 2007/07/17 00:42:43
DJ Mole
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Posted - 2007/07/17 :  11:37:53  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ Mole's homepage  Reply with quote
i though i'd like the 3rd cd best mate, but disk 2 is ownage hard dance to hard style to hardcore variation at its best!!



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Fluffbomb
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Posted - 2007/07/17 :  13:15:01  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Fluffbomb's homepage  Reply with quote
I don't know why everybody is so worried about it being marketed as Hardcore. It seems to be used for loads of genres (Old Skool Hardcore, Hardcore Breaks, Hardcore Techno & current Hard Dance sounding Happy Hardcore).

I can't see myself buying this as I'm not into the Hard dance stuff on CD2 & CD3 and the Rave Breaks stuff on CD1 while ok (and my pick of the CDs) isn't as good as the Hardcore Breaks stuff I'm collecting now.

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Sk8SiM
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Posted - 2007/07/17 :  13:18:18  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Sk8SiM's homepage  Reply with quote
Well well well...

All i can say is... I haven't been into hardcore for some time now!
And recently these last few months I've been really involved with "NU Skool Breaks"

But guess what i realized...
"Rave Breaks" - is THE SAME ****ING THING!
Just - 3bpm faster! [wooow] - a few hoover stabs and an m1 piano!
^^^ Stupid!

But still - also the reason i'll be buying as i really dig the stuff at the mo!

And besides - its mostly remixes - which also makes it more in commen with nu-skool breaks :P [which sucks, but still the music is phat!]

DEBATE ALERT!
Rave breaks & Hardcore breaks
same thing?

My answer: NO!!!
2 different things! if you like - there 2 sub genres to "nu-rave"
Asif... ^^^ and this is how classifications in music happen!

Hardcore breaks = Gritty, sounds oldskool!
Rave Breaks - Polished, mostly remixs, clean sounds, 3bpm faster then nuskool breaks, THE SAME AS NU SKOOL BREAKS!

Sorry, but if anyone can't hear the difference in sound [thats clearly blatant] then theres something wrong!

Tell ya what - GO out and buy the album... listen?
Then go to nu-rave.com - tune into the radio!
BEHOLD! - Difference - yes! - It will be staring you in the face!


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XelleXcoreX
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Posted - 2007/07/17 :  17:24:00  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit XelleXcoreX's homepage  Reply with quote
Got the album today
its not too bad
I'm into it!!
Listenin to disk 2 at the mo.. I prefer disk 1 though




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DJ Mole
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Posted - 2007/07/18 :  11:48:54  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ Mole's homepage  Reply with quote
Anyone with half a brain should be able to see Disk 2 is the best, Kutsi with a wickedly true intro and the scratching is awesome and some of them hard style influenced tunes like R U Ready are amense!!

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Samination
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Posted - 2007/07/18 :  12:20:53  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
Mole, for us to like Kutski, doesnt we need to like hard house in the first place?

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Fluffbomb
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Posted - 2007/07/18 :  12:37:25  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Fluffbomb's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Rave breaks & Hardcore breaks
same thing?

My answer: NO!!!
2 different things! if you like - there 2 sub genres to "nu-rave"
Asif... ^^^ and this is how classifications in music happen!

Hardcore breaks = Gritty, sounds oldskool!
Rave Breaks - Polished, mostly remixs, clean sounds, 3bpm faster then nuskool breaks, THE SAME AS NU SKOOL BREAKS!

Sorry, but if anyone can't hear the difference in sound [thats clearly blatant] then theres something wrong!

Tell ya what - GO out and buy the album... listen?
Then go to nu-rave.com - tune into the radio!
BEHOLD! - Difference - yes! - It will be staring you in the face!

You won't have much luck tuning into Nu-Rave.com because it was hacked a while back. It should be coming back soon though.

Your description of the difference between Rave Breaks & Hardcore Breaks isn't far off except you forgot to mention that Hardcore Breaks is slightly faster & better!


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DJ Mole
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Posted - 2007/07/18 :  16:03:57  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ Mole's homepage  Reply with quote
but he plays what is good hard house, not the shite, i dont buy hardhouse albums and no nothing about the genre but that mix is v. good



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yellow.turtle
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Posted - 2007/07/18 :  16:33:15  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit yellow.turtle's homepage  Reply with quote
I bought this cd today, and i have to say i love it. I don't care if people diss it, i like it. :)



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Dj ANIL
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Posted - 2007/07/18 :  21:48:05  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Dj ANIL's homepage  Reply with quote
One stunner of an album I like the Hardcore Masif tunes Touch Me, Bullet In The Gun and also the All I Need tune has well.



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Sk8SiM
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Posted - 2007/07/19 :  03:49:45  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Sk8SiM's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fluffbomb:
Your description of the difference between Rave Breaks & Hardcore Breaks isn't far off except you forgot to mention that Hardcore Breaks is slightly faster & better!

You Dam Right It Is


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Soulguage
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Posted - 2007/07/19 :  09:52:42  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
i think its a quality little mix. not all the same beats all through like most albums, and the 1st cd is really good, sorta like helter skelter vs raindance - starts of a bit more chilled out then gets right into the old skool. kutski is really good for the ppl who are slammin him, seen him a few times and hes rocked it as good as sy or hixxy. this album is bringin the hardcore sound forwards if anything

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DJCrissy
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Posted - 2007/07/20 :  19:29:56  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJCrissy's homepage  Reply with quote
Not got it yet was gunna get it the other day but unsure wether or not it would be much good because i like all the original hardcore from helter skelter not this dancy mix stuff.
Tell me the truth guys is it worth gettin?

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capone13
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Posted - 2007/07/21 :  12:06:04  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit capone13's homepage  Reply with quote
CD2 is amazing, just as I expected from Kutski, the other two CD's are not my thing, but this mix is immense, it's the variation from Hardstyle, Hard Dance, Trance & Hardcore, it's great. Kutski does it again!! :o

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