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lucificifus
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 Posted - 2006/10/18 : 04:24:39
Because after 3 years of djing, I still clang every mix I make.
So a few questions:
1) When someone does a totally sweet mix (No Left Turn's studio mixes, etc.), do they just up and do it? I guess I'm wondering how they prepare for a studio mix.
2) If I can pick up 16 random records in my collection, and not trainwreck once, but more or less have an imperfect transfer every single time, does that mean improvement, or should I still be totally ashamed?
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Brian K
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Posted - 2006/10/18 : 06:16:46
if you want your studio mix to sound the awesome, a lot of prep work is usually put into it. ex. luna-c usually spends around a month or more preparing a super set.
as long as your mixes aren't noticeably horrid you should be happy...the most important thing to mixing to me is are you having fun?
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Posted - 2006/10/18 : 08:44:30
Vocally anthems are harder to mix together because of all the noise going on at the same time, try mixing two tracks that are more instrumentals or longer intro's, get the hang of these type of records first, then move onto the vocal tracks.
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Posted - 2006/10/18 : 09:41:59
There's no substitute for practice. If you're only having minor problems when mixing i'd say that's a definite improvement so good on you mate!
Use the same records over and over if you have to until you get a smoother sounding mix.
Forget all these fancy studio mixes etc for now - while they're fun, they take an awful lot of effort and preparation!
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lucificifus
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Posted - 2006/10/18 : 15:39:57
Thanks for the advice everyone  All stuff I didn't know before. I'll work on finding some easier to mix tunes, and try to vary my tracks like that. And Brian K is right, I just need to have fun with it 
Practice makes perfect 
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Sk8SiM
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Posted - 2006/10/19 : 00:19:10
Intressing topic!
So what about live sets?
So it basiclly doesn't matter if its not perfect?
I read a archive once off DJrecess.co.uk (Great Site)
He comments on how you shouldn't worry about the odd f*ck up as the chances are the punters won't even notice... its only "trainspotters" and DJ's themselfs who pick up on it! lol
I wouldn't mind knowing what you guys made of that...
As i have my first live set on the 1st of feb at some club for my mates 18th birthday (I'm bricking it lol)
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Brian K
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Posted - 2006/10/19 : 01:44:23
most people don't notice when you f*ck up if it's at a party, other than of course the other djs...or if it's a really bad one, ie take off the wrong record or don't cut off the sound to the table and the needle starts jumping around the middle of the record =P
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lucificifus
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Posted - 2006/10/19 : 03:19:50
quote:
Originally posted by Brian K:
most people don't notice when you f*ck up if it's at a party, other than of course the other djs...or if it's a really bad one, ie take off the wrong record or don't cut off the sound to the table and the needle starts jumping around the middle of the record =P
You know, I noticed when I played at my schools Homecoming that even though it was a constant trainwreck (I didn't have monitors, and I could barely here my headphones the speakers were so loud) no one seemed to care...
And now that I MIGHT be playing somwhere with decent sound... well, I've been practicing 2 hours a day since the day before this thread was created. And I think I just might be able to do something suitable
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Xenochrome
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Posted - 2006/10/19 : 03:25:28
Learn to use your EQ's. Can make a huge difference in the sound of your mixes.
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StrifeII
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Posted - 2006/10/19 : 11:28:48
kick drums are where the clanging comes from generally, so if you can avoid mixing them do that.
otherwise yeah, just practise and use your eq's
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Sk8SiM
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Posted - 2006/10/20 : 02:52:59
One more thing
http://happyhardcore.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=30994
Go to the site listed
Got a feeling it could come in handy
It did for me
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Dave Tee
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Posted - 2006/10/20 : 14:25:59
quote:
Originally posted by Xenochrome:
Learn to use your EQ's. Can make a huge difference in the sound of your mixes.
Exactly.
Has your mixer got 3 band eq's? It probably has so....
The new tune which you're going to be mixing in, if you just throw it straight in is going to be really loud and clash with the song that's now playing so I would lower the bass definately and the mix will sound instantly better. You also might want to lower the middle and top depending on what sounds are on the songs.
Just play around with the eq's next time you have 2 songs beatmatched and you should get the hang of eq'ing them well soon enough
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Posted - 2006/10/20 : 15:44:54
Possible Retard Question: What's a Clang?
By the way I've managed to get hold of Traktor DJ, but have only messed about with it and would like to know more about DJing as I would like to be good at it (using a computer first, then I'll buy equipment when I grasp the basics, hopefully)
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Posted - 2006/10/20 : 16:03:41
quote:
Originally posted by Bidd:
Possible Retard Question: What's a Clang?
Badly matched beat basically.
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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2006/10/20 : 17:24:18
It's weird that after 3 years you still can't hold a mix
but maybe you haven't practiced enough
Once you've got beatmatching down to near-perfection the most important thing is proper EQing
You don't want too much midrange while you're mixing so you should usually keep that a bit lower than your highs on the track you're bringing in (say...9-10 oclock depending on the mixer) and when it comes time to switch basslines you can also "switch" the midrange (ie put the track mixing in at 11 oclock and the other at 9-10 oclock now)
If you're playing 4/4 then the bassline and kickdrum (ie bass knob) should be off completely on the track you're mixing in - when it comes time to switch basslines just turn off the knob on the track you're mixing out of and put the track you're mixing into's bass knob at 12 oclock
Never have two basslines that are not in the same key playing together (ie if one knob is at 12 oclock you should have the other at minimum and vice-versa)
If they are in the same key you can mess with the bass knobs as well but you can safely assume they aren't in the same key and play it safe
Obvoiusly this is all a general summary to help out...
and the bass knob "oclock" settings are different for each mixer since EQ curves vary
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lucificifus
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Posted - 2006/10/20 : 20:35:00
Dain-Ja, my Vestax mixer goes -inf--+6db :) Where should I have my bass EQ for an incoming track?
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