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Mortis
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 Posted - 2009/03/30 : 15:41:26
Timeout
I have decided to stop writing UK Hardcore for the foreseeable future. The whole scene is royally messed up and I am not prepared to be claimed as its latest bitter dj/producer victim. Mainly as I am not bitter, I have travelled the world and met some amazing people because of hardcore, who could be bitter about that? I am just not prepared to work hard for a scene that doesn't appreciate it.
There are some amazing people involved with UK Hardcore, people who work their asses off week in and week out for little or no reward. There are also way too many over the hill dinosaurs, riding on the coat tails of their previous success, bringing nothing new, just milking it for all they can whilst artists with far greater skill get left on the sidelines as they are not part of the "old boys club".
People don't normally name names when it comes to things like this, but I like a bit of juicy gossip so here is some of my own. The best example of "dinosaur" has to be DJ Supreme. This clown has wormed his way back into the scene, mixing various large compilations over the past few years and ripping off anyone and everyone he works with. The guy is a useless DJ and about as skilled at writing music as a blind & deaf retarded mute. He has zero technical and musical ability. I have lost count of the horror stories I have heard about this guy, even from people who have known him for 15+ years, no-one is safe from his underhand crook tactics. Why have I named him? He ripped me off, simple as that. He has also ripped so many other people off who I wont name, its not my place to, but the guy is a pimple on the arse of musical humanity. Jeff, there is nothing "supreme" about you.
So anyone who reads this blog, have 3 free tracks. Tracks that are listed as collaborations between Jeff & myself. But unless you count sitting in my studio and eating as "collaborating" are anything but. Enjoy them, re-upload them and feel free to do with them as you please.
https://www.yousendit.com/download/UmNMK0d1UzdsMHhFQlE9PQ
I will make UK Hardcore again at some point and there are numerous releases of mine forthcoming, but for now I have other things to concentrate on.
Much love
Alex
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Thanks to hashlygreen over at hardcoreproducer.org.
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redwingz
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Posted - 2009/03/30 : 15:50:49
Old Boys club???? I can think of about 6 people he is talking about.
Young producers with more skill????? I can think of another 6 or so.
People who put everything into hardcore for little or no reward???? Many, many people
Wow....wasnt expecting the naming and shaming.....but if he is pissed off then he has a write to tell people.
Big respect to Stormtrooper! A massively talented guy and I hope he does come back one day. Also, big respect to him for saying how he feels and not just saying 'Im quitting for personal reasons' He obviously cares about the scene enough to tell us these things that he is feeling.
Nice one Mortis for the info!
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hardcore anorak
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Posted - 2009/03/30 : 15:58:53
wow i totally agree with redwingz as much as i love the old boys club my heroes from my youth. The scene should deffo without doubt look past them or maybe when they all pack up every other fresh new talent would of gone so so shit respect to you stormtrooper
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Revs
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Posted - 2009/03/30 : 16:09:23
Doesn't surprise me actually. Everyone is quitting Hardcore, lol. No wonder when it sounds so shit like in the past year.
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/03/30 : 16:25:46
Fair play to the guy, massive respect, hes a great producer and will be missed for sure. Bit unprofessional in the way he went about things? Perhaps, but sometimes you gotta fight fire with fire i guess, i dont blame him it does sound like hes been ripped off and Supreme does sound like a bit of a **** tbh. Hope he makes a return soon and if not atleast starts producing some other genre hes definitley talented enough to flourish in any scene.
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Vitalism
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Posted - 2009/03/30 : 16:46:18
he has every right to feel resentful towards someone who ripped him off. i wish there were more honest and straightforward people in this world, it's too bad that nice people get walked all over like this. (not really sure what the situation was, but anyway)
and really, about all the old boys, he is right. all of these producers right now aren't coming up with anything good. they DID come up with good stuff at one point, but that was yesteryear.
many of them have passed their best before date for sure.
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Meph751
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Posted - 2009/03/30 : 16:47:48
well **** me, that sucks
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Mad Max
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Posted - 2009/03/30 : 17:01:07
shit
hardcore has lost one of its best assests then
dont u love the politics the sun newspaper should have a hardcore section
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Leto
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Posted - 2009/03/30 : 17:23:44
Hm. That sucks. I hope he'll be back. He's my favorite producer. :-(
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SPOOX
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Posted - 2009/03/30 : 17:37:50
Thanks a lot for the info Mortis.
Not that surprised really that another top DJ / Producer has left the scene. The music's shit these days & i think it's only a matter of time before we see others deciding to leave too. I was shocked to hear about Supreme though as i have always been a fan but ripping people off just ain't on. Something has to change with the scene. I think it's worse now than when it went tits up before in 99-00. I'll be calling it a day with Hardcore before long if things continue the way they are.
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Vitalism
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Posted - 2009/03/30 : 18:39:25
we should all just keep hardcore as a pleasant memory and move on.
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2009/03/30 : 19:07:39
dj supreme is renouned as a scummy little shit, absorbing credit for tracks that became hugely popular even though he had help from other people, who were quickely disregarded.
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Brian K
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Posted - 2009/03/30 : 19:08:35
well that's a bit of sad news.  doesn't really surprise me with the news of someone getting ripped off though...
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2009/03/30 : 19:36:45
Re: Shuttlepro.
passion's, such as hardcore, cost people allot. stormstrooper probably sacrificed girlfriends, family and good time to devote his time into his passion.
however, when more important things outweigh that passion, the he has every right to ignore you wankers, shuttlepro, and dictate where his own life goes.
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kdf
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Posted - 2009/03/30 : 19:37:39
someone fancy uploading the tracks again download limit has been reached
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wong
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Posted - 2009/03/30 : 19:51:52
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Originally posted by shuttlepro:
Wow just wow. What a stupid pansy ass. Stormpooper isn't hardcore at all. If he actually liked hardcore he would support it, fight, not quit just because some fag hurt his poor little feelings! aww! poor little stormpooper! you can go **** yourself! for your information you're just fu.cking shit up even more quitting! thanks for hurting the scene even more!
Oh well. He should just join all the other hardcore quitters like impact and produce electro in fl studio to play at preteen girl's birthday parties. That's where he belongs.
^^^^ supreme in disguise ^^^^
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