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Triquatra
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 Posted - 2005/10/17 : 11:10:20
sure, a "known" fact
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=TTX1+overheat
a whole threads ! :O thats known! ..even proven my friend! :D
as for wow and flutter, its hard to find out exactly what the ttx1's run at, numark.com list a completly differnt % than the actual product manual (0.03% and 0.15%) and the rest of the internet is littered with figures, most of which saying "less than 0.15%" probably because of the confusion as to how much it actually is lol
compared to the tech 1210's's (0.25%)
i got interested to see how much of a differnce this is, when both these numbers are so low....all i could find was this one review which your friend (seeky) might want to read, as its a comparison deck next to deck (one ttx1 and one tech 1210)
http://sqratchattack.com/catalog/reviews/ttx.html
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I found the TTX1 to be very accurate. This is despite the significant difference in wow and flutter between the TTX1 and the 1200 (I could not find any comparable info on this for the PDX-2000). According to the technical specifications I found, the TTX1 has <.15% WRMS and the Technics has .025% WRMS. But even though the 1200 looks better on paper, I couldn't find any perceptible difference in use. In fact, I put a copy of Planet Rock on my TTX1 and another identical copy on one of my 1200s. After getting them in phase with each other, they rode together in phase for all 6:25 of the song and another 1:15 of the bonus beats.
doesnt sound like its that much of an issue...
plus ive never had a problem keeping beats in time for extended periods..
course thats because im great also ;) *wink*
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Posted - 2005/10/17 : 12:23:59
My opinion (in as few words as possible)
I own both
I've used both - a lot.
I prefer the TTX-1 and consider it to be a better deck than the Technics.
The end.
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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2005/10/17 : 16:30:07
I'm no longer gonna argue cause this is the neverending which is the best deck battle...
and it will never end
but if you look on google with a proper search "numark ttx1 overheat" you'll find alot more results
http://www.google.com/search?q=numark+TTX1+overheat&hl=en&lr=
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Posted - 2005/10/17 : 16:35:08
To me that just looks like it's an old problem that's been remedied?
Mine have had some hammer in the couple of years i've had them and i'm happy with how they perform - although the same can be said for my Technics.
Overall - they're both top quality decks and whichever you have you should be happy.
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Posted - 2005/10/17 : 19:59:52
dain-ja, your problem is your the one argueing about best deck,
im just saying its an equal.
dms has both - the basterd ;)
ive already spilt a glass of champaine on mine, still runs just as well :)
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Posted - 2005/10/18 : 00:49:31
quote:
Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
ive already spilt a glass of champaine on mine, still runs just as well :)
show off 
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Posted - 2005/10/18 : 03:39:54
admitdly i did run round the house screeming like a girl for about an hour
*blush*
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Posted - 2005/10/18 : 09:56:16
I can only afford to spill sparkling wine on my decks 
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Posted - 2005/10/18 : 11:27:00
sparkling water here I'm afraid
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Posted - 2005/10/18 : 11:57:20
I was going to say 'council pop' but i don't think the majority of members would know what i meant!
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Posted - 2005/10/18 : 14:21:40
yeah but I stopped arguing lol
"ive already spilt a glass of champaine on mine, still runs just as well :)"
yeah one of my tech12s is about 10 years old
it's had beer spilt into it like 50 times (was in a club)
still works perfectly :)
turn off the power and clean it when it happens and you're fine
(I'd assume the same goes for TTX1s)
I must say technics messed up on their cd players though
the numark CDX is far superior IMO
FAR superior.
god I love the CDX :D
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Posted - 2005/10/27 : 18:39:32
From an engineers point of view, you are never going to have two decks, even two that came off the production line side by side, whose zero pitch point is EXACTLY the same. There are component tolerances, aging, and drift issues that ensure that this is the case. It is possible that they may be extremely close, but as a DJ you are the ultimate servo and will are responsible for correcting any pitch errors that occur. A point to be made here as well is that your ear, no matter how well trained, is not very accurate in that it usually takes several seconds to hear that a correction needs to be made even when the beats are pretty well synched. As long as a deck doesn't drift rapidly (known as the WOW component of the WOW and flutter specification) it doesn't really matter if zero pitch is actually zero pitch.
I have 1200 mark II's that have that "dead zone" in the middle of the fader where the pitch is supposed to lock to zero. I can guarantee that two identical records spun at the same time will not stay in time with both decks
locked" on zero; my decks or any two other decks!...you will have to make corrections at some time. If I am mixing and the pitch ends up in that "locked" zone, I will usually have to tweak the other deck to achieve best match since that dead zone can be a bit wide. I could do the mod and disconnect the "locked" switch part of the fader but I'm lazy and would rather spin than take my decks apart since I have a good workaround soulution.
As for the best decks question...I like my Technics, others like their Numarks, and so on, and so on. Weigh all the costs and benefits, buy the best you can afford, and hope for the best. Personally, I'd buy 1200's again but maybe the M3D's next time instead of the mkII's.
Just my two cents.
I also have service manuals for the 1200's if anyone has need of a copy.
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Posted - 2005/10/27 : 20:37:19
first off
yes, the 0% pitch on quartz locked decks like tech12s and ttx-1s will be exactly the same (not on the MKII but on the M3D or MK5 at least since they have the button)
"I have 1200 mark II's that have that "dead zone" in the middle of the fader where the pitch is supposed to lock to zero. I can guarantee that two identical records spun at the same time will not stay in time with both decks
locked" on zero; my decks or any two other decks!...you will have to make corrections at some time. If I am mixing and the pitch ends up in that "locked" zone, I will usually have to tweak the other deck to achieve best match since that dead zone can be a bit wide. I could do the mod and disconnect the "locked" switch part of the fader but I'm lazy and would rather spin than take my decks apart since I have a good workaround soulution."
what you need to do is adjust the screw inside the deck for the zero point of the pitch control
you should also calibrate it using your strobe and zero it at -3,3%, -6%, +3,3% and + 6% as well
it's just because your pitch fader has aged so you have to recalibrate it
and were not talking about having the same speed at a given setting on the pitch fader
ie saying that 3% on deck A will be the same speed as 3% on deck B
sure with pitch fader wear that might change
were talking about once you have them beatmatched...
meaning which brand deck will take less time to drift away...without caring whether one deck has it at -3 and the other at +4 to be beatmatched
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