rafferty Advanced Member
United Kingdom
649 posts Joined: Feb, 2012
Posted - 2019/04/29 : 01:54:25
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
quote:Originally posted by djDMS:
Fantastic.
Anything less than 25 years old that takes your fancy?
How about this?
Smoogie just contradicted himself lol.. Says the Ryan Kore track is too vocally and that is why he doesn't like it. Then posts another track he likes with just as many vocals. #Hypocrite
rafferty Advanced Member
United Kingdom
649 posts Joined: Feb, 2012
Posted - 2019/04/29 : 02:09:45
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
I know a few people will laugh at this but I have been talking t a few Hard House producers lately and a lot of them are former UK Hardcore listeners. Some grew up with Happy Hardcore, some have dabbled in breakbeat and they all say the same thing. UK Hardcore is dead. Sounds the same. No direction ect
Hard House has been coming out in leaps and bounds in the past few years. Some of the most recent releases are breath taking and there is more to come. Events are going all over the place and there are a lot of new people getting involved. That is what UK Hardcore was doing back in 2005 but here in 2019 it is as stale as Jeremy Corbyn's policies.
It won't take much for UK Hardcore to move forwards but when the higher ups are trying their dull EDM they will be stuck in the same circle of dullness and doom
Man you have no idea. The only thing that is stale is your Hard House shite.. Sounds the same as it always did. I remember back in the early 2000s alot of people were converting to Hard House when it was a short lived fad.
You just can't compare it to Hardcore. No energy, no.intelligence in production.
I guess small minds are entertained by small minded music like Hard House.
And to say hardcore is stuck and dull compared to Hard Housel a load of bollocks too. Just take a listen to the quality guys like Ryan Kore are producing. Fresher, better produced and higher quality than anything you showed on here.
Thats ****ing gash, how you call that decent is beyond me, and the hard house scene back in the day was massive. Parties like Gatecrasher, Godskitchen, Manumission etc were huge, there were clubs all over the UK that were better than some of the raves, they scenes ran along side each other quite happily, and it was good to mix n match .
House was always slamming really, hard house was a cash in on an already established genre, was nothing new at the time. Music was just bigger kicks, long build ups and harder drops. But then you had groovy as **** house thrown in too, with a banging kick, was awesome times.
Gatecrasher, Manumission & God's Kitchen lol.. Fark all that proggy shit. Slow and boring is the only way I can describe those clubs. And look at them now, are all shut for a reason.
Hard House is a joke too. Is about as hard as a rotten banana. And takes a total back seat to Hardstyle these days.
Hardcore Heaven, Fusion & Helter Skelter is where it was at back then.
You may not like productions like Ryan Kore, but high quality polished productions like this is the way the Hardcore scene is going these days.
If you don't like them, I guess you will be left behind like Smoogie with is dieing dated old Hard House lol..
LeVzi Advanced Member
United Kingdom
944 posts Joined: Feb, 2019
Posted - 2019/04/30 : 06:36:32
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
I know a few people will laugh at this but I have been talking t a few Hard House producers lately and a lot of them are former UK Hardcore listeners. Some grew up with Happy Hardcore, some have dabbled in breakbeat and they all say the same thing. UK Hardcore is dead. Sounds the same. No direction ect
Hard House has been coming out in leaps and bounds in the past few years. Some of the most recent releases are breath taking and there is more to come. Events are going all over the place and there are a lot of new people getting involved. That is what UK Hardcore was doing back in 2005 but here in 2019 it is as stale as Jeremy Corbyn's policies.
It won't take much for UK Hardcore to move forwards but when the higher ups are trying their dull EDM they will be stuck in the same circle of dullness and doom
Man you have no idea. The only thing that is stale is your Hard House shite.. Sounds the same as it always did. I remember back in the early 2000s alot of people were converting to Hard House when it was a short lived fad.
You just can't compare it to Hardcore. No energy, no.intelligence in production.
I guess small minds are entertained by small minded music like Hard House.
And to say hardcore is stuck and dull compared to Hard Housel a load of bollocks too. Just take a listen to the quality guys like Ryan Kore are producing. Fresher, better produced and higher quality than anything you showed on here.
Thats ****ing gash, how you call that decent is beyond me, and the hard house scene back in the day was massive. Parties like Gatecrasher, Godskitchen, Manumission etc were huge, there were clubs all over the UK that were better than some of the raves, they scenes ran along side each other quite happily, and it was good to mix n match .
House was always slamming really, hard house was a cash in on an already established genre, was nothing new at the time. Music was just bigger kicks, long build ups and harder drops. But then you had groovy as **** house thrown in too, with a banging kick, was awesome times.
Gatecrasher, Manumission & God's Kitchen lol.. Fark all that proggy shit. Slow and boring is the only way I can describe those clubs. And look at them now, are all shut for a reason.
Hard House is a joke too. Is about as hard as a rotten banana. And takes a total back seat to Hardstyle these days.
Hardcore Heaven, Fusion & Helter Skelter is where it was at back then.
You may not like productions like Ryan Kore, but high quality polished productions like this is the way the Hardcore scene is going these days.
If you don't like them, I guess you will be left behind like Smoogie with is dieing dated old Hard House lol..
I am glad to be left behind if that is the standard of Hardcore that is deemed "good" now. And you are comparing 2 completely different styles of music, I never said Hardcore wasnt good back in the day, I was saying both scenes were vibrant, and alive. And where is Dreamscape and Helter now ? As dead as Gatecrasher and Godskitchen, times change and music changes, so expecting them to stand the test of time is ridiculous.
SparkzMusic Senior Member
Zimbabwe
334 posts Joined: Apr, 2011
Posted - 2019/05/01 : 11:22:50
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
quote:Originally posted by SparkzMusic:
Is a cool track, but sounds so vintage compared to the standard of today.
I much prefer the new stuff.
Exactly, but that's the thing isn't it? Today's standard and new stuff isn't even hardcore really as it takes way too many influences from hardstyle which is cloned over and over, more than it was back in the day.
For a lot, the most recent thing they can actually call hardcore is the dubcore stuff on the last CLXH album. Widely that wasn't liked so to many, Hardcore is either the time before with all the raver baby stuff or even earlier than that with the "happy" hardcore, bonkers stuff or breakbeat sounds.
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