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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2019/01/21 : 12:15:39
I reckon Bonkers is best left alone at this stage.
Why revive though? Create new ideas & look forward :)
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SparkzMusic
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Posted - 2019/01/22 : 00:17:57
Disc 1: Impact
Disc 2: Technikore
Disc 3: UFO
Disc 4: Myself *
* Has to be done, plus these days after what has been 17 years of production and not really participating in the core scene anymore, I do listen to a lot of my own and "Lucky Strike" alias stuff for the old memories of what I produced. Yep, it's probably shit but had a lot of fans and followers at the time.
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lainnix
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Posted - 2019/01/22 : 01:36:04
quote: Originally posted by Ken Masters:
I reckon Bonkers is best left alone at this stage.
Why revive though? Create new ideas & look forward :)
Nothing released in the last decade has been as good as early Bonkers. We tried going forward and it didn't work. We gotta go back.
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SparkzMusic
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Posted - 2019/01/22 : 02:12:38
quote: Originally posted by Ken Masters:
Why revive though? Create new ideas & look forward :)
Trance is Trance at the end of the day. It's done to perfection, euphoric arps, that sound we all know and love.
It's like saying to 70's Disco sound, "create new ideas and look forward". In over 40 years it's still known to have that distinctive bassline and sound.
UK Hardcore, well the Euphoric trance days, is what it is. How can new ideas be put down without changing the sound and style?
Should people just say "Well those were the good days, gone now, ah well" that's the end of that. Or hear/produce shit they really dont like.
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2019/01/22 : 13:28:52
Change is a funny one..
Dutch Hardcore / Gabber has hardly changed a jot in almost 2 decades...yet still packed out arenas.
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djDMS
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Posted - 2019/01/22 : 17:21:10
quote: Originally posted by SparkzMusic:
quote: Originally posted by Ken Masters:
Why revive though? Create new ideas & look forward :)
Trance is Trance at the end of the day. It's done to perfection, euphoric arps, that sound we all know and love.
It's like saying to 70's Disco sound, "create new ideas and look forward". In over 40 years it's still known to have that distinctive bassline and sound.
UK Hardcore, well the Euphoric trance days, is what it is. How can new ideas be put down without changing the sound and style?
Should people just say "Well those were the good days, gone now, ah well" that's the end of that. Or hear/produce shit they really dont like.
He said don't revive Bonkers, create new ideas.
I didn't see anything about what the music should sound like.
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Sulphurik
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Posted - 2019/01/22 : 22:05:19
quote: Originally posted by Triquatra:
Change is a funny one..
Dutch Hardcore / Gabber has hardly changed a jot in almost 2 decades...yet still packed out arenas.
Could say the same about drum n bass.
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2019/01/22 : 22:18:42
Aye, at least for certain sub genres of it.
I wasn't saying it was a bad thing at all, quite the opposite. Change enough that your core audience **** off, and fail to invite anybody new into it and you bugger yourself.
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rafferty
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Posted - 2019/01/27 : 08:32:26
A new Bonkers would probably revive the scene like it did in 2000.
I would make it a lot more than 4 djs to gain interest and keep everyone happy.
7 disc set and call it Bonkers United with a combined effort from all promoters and djs being involved. Can you imagine the amount of people that would be back in their studios producing Hardcore again for the mixes.
Would be like an injection into the HARDCORE ECONOMY.
Maybe it could be done by a go fund me page through Slammin Vinyl & Hardcore Underground and any other promoters that want to be involved.
1) IYF & Nobody vs Vinylgroover & Force
2) Gammer, Macks Wolf & Alex Prospect vs Breeze & Unknown
3) Brisk & Ham vs Joey Riot & Kurt
4) Slipmatt & Seduction vs Ramos & Supreme
5) Scott Brown & Bass Generator vs Marc Smith & Technotrance
6) Hixxy, Dougal & Recon vs Styles & Stonebank
7) Fracus & Darwin vs Storm & Euphony
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CDJay
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Posted - 2019/01/27 : 12:51:35
That's pretty much exactly what I said in 2013 😂
(admittedly, I pitched 4 CDs but all as b2bs)
Everyone waited in case another Clubland Xtreme happened, instead. It didn't.
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djDMS
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Posted - 2019/01/27 : 14:53:58
Which is just another confirmation of all that's wrong with this 'scene'.
A new Bonkers would probably sell loads on the name (particularly if some of the same, tired old dinosaurs were attached to it), rather than the music.
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rafferty
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Posted - 2019/01/28 : 00:04:41
Yeah the name and having loads of djs from the past present involved would make the promotion of it absolutely massive.
It would double the market interest of normal Hardcore releases.
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lainnix
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Posted - 2019/01/28 : 02:09:03
quote: Originally posted by rafferty:
A new Bonkers would probably revive the scene like it did in 2000.
I would make it a lot more than 4 djs to gain interest and keep everyone happy.
7 disc set and call it Bonkers United with a combined effort from all promoters and djs being involved. Can you imagine the amount of people that would be back in their studios producing Hardcore again for the mixes.
Would be like an injection into the HARDCORE ECONOMY.
Maybe it could be done by a go fund me page through Slammin Vinyl & Hardcore Underground and any other promoters that want to be involved.
1) IYF & Nobody vs Vinylgroover & Force
2) Gammer, Macks Wolf & Alex Prospect vs Breeze & Unknown
3) Brisk & Ham vs Joey Riot & Kurt
4) Slipmatt & Seduction vs Ramos & Supreme
5) Scott Brown & Bass Generator vs Marc Smith & Technotrance
6) Hixxy, Dougal & Recon vs Styles & Stonebank
7) Fracus & Darwin vs Storm & Euphony
Love the idea, but please no Gammer...
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The drunken scotsman
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Posted - 2019/01/28 : 07:04:09
quote: Originally posted by rafferty:
A new Bonkers would probably revive the scene like it did in 2000.
I would make it a lot more than 4 djs to gain interest and keep everyone happy.
7 disc set and call it Bonkers United with a combined effort from all promoters and djs being involved. Can you imagine the amount of people that would be back in their studios producing Hardcore again for the mixes.
Would be like an injection into the HARDCORE ECONOMY.
Maybe it could be done by a go fund me page through Slammin Vinyl & Hardcore Underground and any other promoters that want to be involved.
1) IYF & Nobody vs Vinylgroover & Force
2) Gammer, Macks Wolf & Alex Prospect vs Breeze & Unknown
3) Brisk & Ham vs Joey Riot & Kurt
4) Slipmatt & Seduction vs Ramos & Supreme
5) Scott Brown & Bass Generator vs Marc Smith & Technotrance
6) Hixxy, Dougal & Recon vs Styles & Stonebank
7) Fracus & Darwin vs Storm & Euphony
That would be great, but ?unlikely? would be a very generous way of describing it on so many levels. Muck like the whole idea of reviving bonkers in the foreseeable future.
Out of curiosity as Ive never understood, but what does vs (versus) mean in the context of a back to back dj mix?
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djDMS
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Posted - 2019/01/28 : 10:17:33
quote: Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
Out of curiosity as Ive never understood, but what does vs (versus) mean in the context of a back to back dj mix?
Short answer - absolutely nothing!
Just makes doing exactly the same thing sound like a competition.
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