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ruzkin
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 Posted - 2003/05/21 : 02:53:48
In one of my many discussions with HHheads about me buying my first set of turntables, one started a huge rant about the difference between the good and great DJ's. Simply mixing from track to track was not good enough - according to him, this would make me just a bog-standard disc-jockey. What I needed to do, he said, was to know each song perfectly and use each one simultaneously to maximise the builds, create dynamic vocals and somesuch.
The problem is, he's primarily a drum&bass man. While I understand his advice, unlike D&B, HH songs are usually way too packed with sound to have two playing at the same time unless they're intro's / outtros. So... what to do? Any advice from really experienced DJ's?
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DJ Overdose
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 Posted - 2003/05/21 : 03:10:29
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What makes the "Great" DJs?
Great skillz and great tunez! LOL!
Seriously tho, your mate is kinda right in what he says. A really good DJ should know his tunes well enough to put together flawless sets. Having said that I've been mixing for over 10 years and I can't say I know EVERY one of my tunes, or that I can do a flawless set EVERY time.
There's nothing wrong with being a 'bog-standard disc-jockey', so long as YOU enjoy doing it.
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Raver_Davie
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Posted - 2003/05/21 : 13:18:59
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On the back of Nukleuz Bootleg vinyl covers:
The DJ is only as good as the record.
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Originally posted by DJ Overdose:
There's nothing wrong with being a 'bog-standard disc-jockey', so long as YOU enjoy doing it.
^^ Spot on.
Remember the 'Great' DJs didn't have their status handed to them on a plate, they had to be 'bog standard' DJs first. Even if 'bog standard DJs' are people who play on saturday nights to p*ssed lager louts in regular night clubs - at least it's a foot on the ladder.
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Slynx
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Posted - 2003/05/21 : 16:26:56
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Originally posted by DJ Overdose:
I've been mixing for over 10 years and I can't say that I can do a flawless set EVERY time.
Dude, i doesn't matter how your set goes there is always one mistake, and thats because you are the biggest critic of yourself... you played so you know where the mistakes are....
to someone listening its flawless, unless of course they are Hixxy... hha do ya get my drift???
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DJ Mouse
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Posted - 2003/05/21 : 17:41:25
no one can do flawless mix after flawless mix... not even dougal or brisk. we all make mistakes
to be a greast dj you have to have your own style,and most importantly a unique sound. you need to be able to pull off a set so that someone can turn around and know exactly who's mixing. also mixing must be as spot on as possible while giving the crowd a good night.
ppl might turn round and say a dj is only as good as his records.... not true. you need good records but also need to be able to mix and please the crowds. don't play what you want,play what the crowd wants,end of the day they go to a rave to hear what tunes they want to hear,not what you want to hear.
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Underloop
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Posted - 2003/05/22 : 00:43:04
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Originally posted by DJ Mouse:
don't play what you want,play what the crowd wants,end of the day they go to a rave to hear what tunes they want to hear,not what you want to hear.
To a certain extent I would agree with you Mouse, but I still think its important to stick to what you believe in and like. Its playing the tunes that YOU like that makes your sets recognisable.... its a fine balance between the 2.
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atomicb
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Posted - 2003/05/22 : 05:24:24
To me, it's always been knowing about which tunes make sense as to making a progession. Like scott brown has his 'start of quite gentle, get bouncy, harder, then wack on some gabber'
Any old mug can come over and just randomly pick tunes and mix them... but it will be wierd . . . I can't explain it but when I pic a tune I'm picking it because somehow it 'feels' right, and some 'feel' wrong. You don't want to much of everything because then ure not making a mix ;)
and errm.. yeah, tune selection, progression very important.. technical ability is natrually needed ;)
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Posted - 2003/05/22 : 18:45:27
The way I like to look at it is that a good set tells a story.
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ryg0r
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Posted - 2003/05/22 : 18:57:57
I'm not tooo sure on a story, but to take a listener on a journey....
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rezzna
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Posted - 2003/05/24 : 01:07:09
i just make sure i have a notepad by my decks constantly. this means while im screwing around doing many key clash mixes, when i find ones that really work and sound goood i write em down. im not putting setlists together cuz i dont believe that when playing live setlists are required, but it helps me remember which choons work with which other choons.
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