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atomicb
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Posted - 2003/04/02 :  08:30:43  Show profile Send a private message
hmm, kinda worrying me this one I'm guessing it's something to do with my carts/styli.

my setup:
2X PDX 2000 decks
shure m44g carts n styli
gem' EX 26 scratch mixer

easiest way to describe what happens on all of my records with certain sounds is to pick the latest (and worst sounding) example of it. Just got rock me softly, and at the break down as the woman says michelle the 'ch' sound (you all know what I mean as you say it, but I don't have the skills to explain it :P) sounds all distorted and nasty liek you get on low quality recordings.

it does it with all of these 'ESS' and 'SHH' sounds, but it's only been really noticable on rock me softly and DFM 01 (forver with me)

any ideas what could be causing it? everything else (including the main parts of those songs, sound fine.. just 'those' sounds.

any help/insight much appricated :)



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Posted - 2003/04/02 :  09:44:41  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Oli G's homepage
erm those sounds are usualy removed before hand with a de esser
but you could have TOO much weight on the cartridge, try take a little off

also if you ahve your EQ's set to ANYTHING BUT flat, set them back :D


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Posted - 2003/04/02 :  09:47:11  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit atomicb's homepage
thanks man, I'll give it a try, will edit this post with what happens :)

EDIT: No help! :'( still the same, I'll get a mate to bring his carts + styli over and see if that's the problem.

I checked and I'm pretty sure it's not the speakers or mixer :/


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Edited by - atomicb on 2003/04/02 12:19:48
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Posted - 2003/04/02 :  12:47:04  Show profile  Send a private message
could be your volume settings. i've got a gemini mixer as well so if you set the settings the same as me they should be ok if that's the problem.
gain: round about the 12 o clock mark,clipping around +1 - +3
i'm assuming you've got it wired to the master output,set that anywhere in the mid range so it's not too quiet and not too loud

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Posted - 2003/04/03 :  13:02:09  Show profile  Send a private message
A friend had the same trouble on his Technics when he first had them. To resolve this we did what Oli G said. Just keep fiddling!

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Posted - 2003/04/06 :  13:33:28  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit atomicb's homepage
my gain is all set up nicely, and i have fiddled with the tone arm and I'm just bot getting anywhere, I'm not sure what to do :/





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Posted - 2003/04/06 :  14:24:26  Show profile  Send a private message
may sound a bit stupid,but maybe your needles need cleaning? filth on the needles can cause poor quality sound

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Posted - 2003/04/07 :  02:28:50  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit atomicb's homepage
Yeah I think it's something like this.. when you say 'clean' what do u mean?

coz I mean I make an effort to keep them clean, but hell I dnt know that much about looking after cart + styli - is there a decent method to do it?

ahhh I've been dj'ing a year and I feel like such a noob now :D



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Posted - 2003/04/08 :  16:49:43  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Tipsy's homepage
if its only on a few records that means either bad pressing or bad mastering (or both). I have noticed the same thing on a lot of represses that often get rushed to the pressing plant a bit too fast.



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Posted - 2003/04/09 :  02:11:01  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit atomicb's homepage
it's on a wide range of labels I'm afriad, it's dependant on the sound not the pressing. I guessing I need to clean my carts and styli properly.





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Posted - 2003/04/09 :  11:00:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit atomicb's homepage
bad news :/ my styli have both had it :/ changed over to a diffrent cart + styli and worked fine. so thats 50 quid :/

and even better news, the crossfader on my mixer is leaking, and I've barely scratched on it at all, scratch mixer my £&$£*&^

anyway, why have the worn out so quick? any tips on stopping this stuff happening.. or just.. arg I dunno I didn't expect this to happen >_<



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Edit: oops I didn't even read the whole thread. Anyways, I have a gemini and the faders have lasted through many thrashings so I dunno. For sound issues the first thing to do is get one of those little brushes that comes with your carts and brush the stylus clean. Dust and dirt can be quite noisy

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Edited by - Lixx on 2003/04/09 11:17:06
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Posted - 2003/04/09 :  15:13:10  Show profile  Send a private message
your crossfader could just be dirty. try taking it out and cleaning it first before you do anything. i thought my fader was cream crackered at first but it turned out to be clogged up. but now it really has had it.

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The last time my crossfader went out I didn't have money to buy a new one for awhile and I found that my mixing really improved because I got used to depending on the channel faders. Could be a good thing.
Now I always keep a spare and I cover up my mixer when I'm not using it, to keep dust out. If you get some of that 'air in a can' stuff and spray it into your fader it might clean it out enough to keep it usable for awhile.

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Posted - 2003/04/10 :  04:25:47  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit atomicb's homepage
heh, yeah thats exadcly what I'm thinking, frankly I'm much more dismayed by the styli . . . I was under the impression that last me quite a whiel longer than this? They are def clean but are just DOA when it comes to high frequences.



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