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Pandora
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 Posted - 2002/11/12 : 05:35:46
I know that many people ask about programs on here but I have a specific question about programs.
I need the name of three programs for making specifically jungle/dnb. A cheap, moderate, and an expensive one.
My husband is going to start to make tracks and is getting conflicting stories on what program to use. I will be getting this for him for Christmas and I am willing to spend a good amount of money on one. Thank You!
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Soren
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 Posted - 2002/11/12 : 08:46:46
Well if you wanna make (good) music with only 1 program then you need to get Reason 2. Most people use a combo of a sequencer like Fruity Loops, Cubase, or Logic Audio and some soft or hardware synths. For software I'd suggest NI's FM7, Junglist, or Kontakt. Kontakt is a soft-sampler and Junglist and FM7 are synths. There's pretty much unlimited options and combos for making music.
What kind of computer (if at all) will this stuff be running on?
What's ur budget?
Is there a prefference for hardware, or is software fine? (I think software is just fine and it's way cheaper.)
Do you already have a MIDI controller, decent sound card, monitor speakers? And do you need/want a good hardware mixer?
Basically tell me your budget and what you have for a computer and any other gear including specifics on soundcards and stuff and I'll give you some package suggestions. A basic software setup with Reason 2 or Fruity Loops and a soft synth plus a controller would run ~$400. A "full" bedroom studio with monitors, hard and/or soft synths, top of the line soft sequencer, mixer, cables, etc can run $4,000+.
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Posted - 2002/11/12 : 09:54:23
I would say as well get either reason 2 (has loads of features and a sound bank) & refill ..... or Fruity loops with some plugins (yopu can get some these free off the net) and something to edit wave forms (samples) like Refill or cool edit 2.
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Pandora
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Posted - 2002/11/12 : 10:08:06
I've done some research myself and asked a few friends who have there own label. The advice that I got was to get Reason 2, with an Oxygen 8 MIDI controller keyboard.
I have a gateway computer that will support everything and if I need to upgrade I will do that.
The only question that I have now is my sound card. The system requirements for Reason 2 is a "16 bit windows compatible audio card preferably with Direct X or ASIO drivers". Gateway support says that my computer has internal sound and graphics (Integrated Sound Blaster compatible audio). Will I have to buy a new sound card?
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Underloop
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Posted - 2002/11/12 : 23:48:23
If you want to go pro with your music then a different soundcard would certainly be beneficial..... look at 24bit 96kHz ones, and also look at how many inputs you'll want to record at once.... along with if you'll want to send any sounds out to external effects units.
I imagine if your doing DnB then a simple stereo in/stereo out will suffice, so have a look at the MAudio Audiophile 2496. It has an extremely low latency, so you can play synths "live". The internal soundcard you have now will probaly introduce up to 1/2 second delay between pressing the key and hearing the sound in Reason.
Might also be worth making sure you have a CD writer. Well worth the investment.... in fact I would say its almost essential in this day and age, especially in the music industry.
Good luck,
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Pandora
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Posted - 2002/11/13 : 05:40:14
First I want to thank you guys for all the very useful information. I've decided that Reason 2 is the program that I will get. I am going to buy an extra 128 mg of Ram and deal with the sound card I have for now. I have a CDR so he will be able to make tracks and get them pressed to vinyl. Again thank you all for helping me, and you guys will be the first to know when my husband makes his first tracks.
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Soren
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Posted - 2002/11/13 : 08:29:04
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I've decided that Reason 2 is the program that I will get. I am going to buy an extra 128 mg of Ram and deal with the sound card I have for now.
Sounds good. The soundblaster is fine to start with. You will get pretty bad latency with the DX drivers, but there are custom made ASIO drivers available for it that reduce its latency by about 90%. Unfortuanately I don't have the link for that site anymore, but if somone knows where it is or if you can find it it'd be usefull.
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I have a CDR so he will be able to make tracks and get them pressed to vinyl.
If you wanna record a track the soundblaster might not cut it. I've heard they have a lot of problems with intorducing static and pops into recordings. But maybe you'll get lucky. Besides, doing recording and mastering is probably a few months off at least.
Oh yeah, there are some controller keybords out there that you might wanna consider besides the Oxygen 8:
http://www.evolution.co.uk/moreinfo/hardware/pro25c.htm
That one is about the same price but has more memory and a greater octave range.
http://www.edirol.com/products/info/pcr30.html
That one is 1.5X or 2X more expensive than the OX8 or MK225c, but it's got assignable sliders in addition to the knobs and it's got a few more keys. This is the best (IMHO) small midi controller on the market right now. Having 16 assignable controls plus the keys would be great... to bad I just bought a controller like a week before it came out... :D
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Kaffine
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Posted - 2002/11/14 : 15:38:31
I believe quality of soundcard is only a factor when you're
A) playing audio or
B) Recording through to an outside device
I believe if you were to record using goldwave or something off your 'wave' channel, you could get crystal-clear recording, or just render to an Mp3 if he uses fruityloops...
But I may very well be wrong. Any seconds?
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Posted - 2002/11/14 : 18:23:16
I'll second that notion.
As with different GPU's/Video cards the different sound cards (when dealing with wavs, mp3's and no external recordings) just affect the speed of sound operations.
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