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m0nst3r
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 Posted - 2011/12/07 : 22:05:24
pretty sure you can take 5htp before rolling aswell as after
magnesium tablets i have been told are also good for come downs and reducing tolerance build up to substances (its also used for tension and cramps)
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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2011/12/08 : 02:48:31
I've never had a comedown from rolling but I've had some nasty ones caused by mephedrome, I do consider myself one of the lucky ones. I haven't rolled in so long, NYE is my next target. It's been almost 6 months and I'm so ready to go wild.
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Audio Warfare
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Posted - 2011/12/08 : 09:41:49
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Smoke some DMT, then you'll have dreams while you're awake...literally. DMT is what your brain releases that makes you dream. Smoking it is the equivilent to loading a rifle with the contents of the universe and firing it at your brain.
A small story I always tell people about DMT is the story of a man who smoked DMT and it distorted his sense of time so much that he had a super realistic trip that felt like 15 years - Everything in the trip was normal, he moved out, got a girlfriend, changed his job and so on. Then POW back on his living room floor 15 years back in time trying to work out what the hell happened; 10 minutes had passed.
There's lots of weird DMT tales, not so much the contents of the trip but how the same things seem to occur in many people's trips. Machine elves (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_elves) and also a lot of cases of Christians doubting some of their beliefs after being absolutely certain they could feel themselves being in contact with or being watched by aliens during their trip. These are people who prior to trying would have completely disbelieved in extra-terrestrial beings.
Weird stuff, but definitely worth a try if you want to see what your mind is capable of. It only lasts about 10 minutes too, no comedown or negative impact on health, despite the fact it's an absolute mind**** it's probably one of the safest things you can try.
EDIT: Also a good, simple way of replenishing your serotonin levels is with chocolate. So yep, that's what you get for the ride home after the rave. Probably not as effective as 5-HTP etc but a nice familiar one that everyone should have access to.
Haha I've tried everything I think I'll ever try now and DMT isn't in the list. :P Probably a bit intense for me tbh, my mind is ****ed up enough already. Heard some mad stories about that stuff.
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5htp helps the body to produce serotonin. Its not a hardcore prescription anti-depressant like Prozac etc. but still worth being cautious of course. Many people take it after a rave up as it helps you sleep and not be a grumpy **** on the CD. I find a mix of 5htp and Vitamin C helps me get through the few days after a session on the old Mandy. XTC massively hammers your Serotonin levels.
I found my dreams where always a bit warped when I took it so did a bit of googling and it seems extensive research has been done on 5htps effects on dreams and it is even used by people to help with lucid dreaming
I knew you could get stuff that helps with the serotonin replenishment - should have clocked that this was one of them.
If/when I have my next massive session on any form of ecstasy I will definitely be following it up with some of this, and plenty of good old fashioned Vitamin C.
Lucid Dreaming is mental as well. Read quite a bit about it, but only ever experienced it a couple of times. Apparently, if you take the time to learn, it's relatively straightforward to teach yourself to do it regularly. Madness.
Yeah definitely worth trying mate. Helps me out on the CD! Lucid dreaming is pretty mad man, should really look into it more as I'd love to be able to control that shit. I do wonder if it would effect the amount of rest your brain was getting at night though.
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Originally posted by m0nst3r:
pretty sure you can take 5htp before rolling aswell as after
I've heard people say that but it doesn't make much sense to me. Surely boosting your serotonin levels before a massive crash would only highten the effects of a come down? I always leave it till I actually need it personally.
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
I've never had a comedown from rolling but I've had some nasty ones caused by mephedrome, I do consider myself one of the lucky ones. I haven't rolled in so long, NYE is my next target. It's been almost 6 months and I'm so ready to go wild.
Just you wait, it will come. :P I never used to and hit it quite often when I was younger. Last few years have been AWFUL so I only do it a few times a year now really and geting some supplies to help with it.
Never touched that Mcat stuff, I know of several people that dies from it. Best not to do things that have only popped up recently IMO, who knows what they can cause. I remember when K first came into widespread use about 8 years ago and everyone was getting bang on it. "There is no danger at all" and "it's not addictive" where some phrases I remember hearing. Now I know people with 2-6 gram a day habbits and some of them have had to have their bladder rebuit and nearly died. Some people I know need to piss literally every half hour and can't keep any amount of liquid in. Of course it's fine in moderation (as with most things) but it show you need to wait to see what exactly the long term effects a drug can cause.
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Audio Warfare
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Posted - 2011/12/08 : 09:45:12
Back on topic I remember going to the supermarket last night and also a neighbour backing into their parking space with a door open and ****ing up mt car. >:( I also remember climbing a minecraft tower killing vampires, when I got out I was around a swimming pool in a hot country but I was a little orphan kid trying to convince a couple to take me how with them. :'(
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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2011/12/10 : 16:09:21
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Just you wait, it will come. :P I never used to and hit it quite often when I was younger. Last few years have been AWFUL so I only do it a few times a year now really and geting some supplies to help with it.
Yeah probably! Although I used to be a proper drinker getting totally puke-everywhere-can't-remember-anything wasted and I've never had a hangover, only ever still been drunk the next day. I don't touch alcohol now though.
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