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ryg0r
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Posted - 2002/10/15 :  17:49:30  Show profile View artist profile Send a private message
What do I need to do to make a track "perfect" for release?

Quality recording

Um...Help me out here!!

You see, I don't quite understand how some tracks (which aren't as, say musically competative as others) can get released and then go on to become "big tunes".

When that poll came up, about do "you want to be a great hardcore...."
I picked producer. I love music, I love making music (not just hardcore, but rap, drum and bass, chill and Big Beat), I love listening to music and my parents have to literally tear me away from the computer (which is my tool).

I want to share my music (hardcore in this case) with the world, and hope that they can enjoy listening to it, as much as I did making it.

Anyway, enough waffling.... Can you give me some productiong tips?

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strychnine
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Posted - 2002/10/16 :  07:02:38  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit strychnine's homepage
most people don't listen to a track and assess its musical competitiveness. they listen to it and decide if it sounds good or not - and you can have no idea how many people are gonna decide that your track sounds good enough to buy. the best you can do is produce something that *you* like and see how it goes. trying to produce to an audience is just placing yourself under an unnecessary handicap - you'll possibly be forcing yourself to produce well outside your strengths as a producer.

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Posted - 2002/10/16 :  11:08:25  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit StrifeII's homepage
get stargazer to master it. never heard such good mastering since um..never

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ryg0r
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Posted - 2002/10/16 :  23:44:38  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message
I guess I'm just whinging, because there are some really crappy gabber tracks that use that same 2 bar riff over and over again - they get released, but no, no me! Geez, what a world!!

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strychnine
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Posted - 2002/10/17 :  04:34:26  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit strychnine's homepage
then just produce gabber :P

about a month ago i was talking to a gabber dj friend of mine while we toyed around with this program Hardcore Creator, moving samples back and forth at random, and he turns around to me and sez, "dude, that's it! all we need is to put in some samples from Training Day or something and we've struck gold!"

sad truth was, he was right. it was as good as most gabber releases are. i guess a lot of gabber nuts are just easy to please.

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Posted - 2002/10/17 :  05:22:22  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit toxic's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by strychnine:
i guess a lot of gabber nuts are just easy to please.



i know where ur coming from ...

Crack another one !!!


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Edited by - toxic on 2002/10/17 05:23:58
ryg0r
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Posted - 2002/10/17 :  15:43:54  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message
quote:
about a month ago i was talking to a gabber dj friend of mine while we toyed around with this program Hardcore Creator, moving samples back and forth at random, and he turns around to me and sez, "dude, that's it! all we need is to put in some samples from Training Day or something and we've struck gold!"


Dang gabber!!!! I think gabber is too dark, not hard but dark.

Whats with gabber and satan? Or natas? I don't get it - The Devil is a fallen angel that gets his butt kicked at the end of the world? Why do they pick a loser to make they're songs "hard"?

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Posted - 2002/10/17 :  19:23:06  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit toxic's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by ryg0r:
Dang gabber!!!! I think gabber is too dark, not hard but dark.



but is gabber known as darkcore anyway?

i read an interview with Promo and he referred to it as darkcore

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pacman
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Posted - 2002/10/18 :  16:53:52  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit pacman's homepage
quote:
but is gabber known as darkcore anyway?


depends on the producer and the style. some people might use the term darkcore to describe a certain type of gabber. like the term "gabber house". some people use it alot, some others have never heard of it, even though they're into the same music. personally i never hear gabber referred to as darkcore, unless it's a certain sound of gabber.

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noiz labs
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i think satan is assosiated with gabba not as a sentient being ... rather... the musics energy nd hypnotic rythems generaly apeal to ppls animalistic emotions .. . lust rage fear jellous ... are all themess of the music and exactly what satan stands for . . .. primitive selfindulgent instinkts , i think the connetion with the music to satan is a logical one. not an urge by producers to seem scary. .. :) my 2 cents , :)


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Edited by - noiz labs on 2002/10/30 01:28:21
strychnine
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Posted - 2002/10/30 :  01:54:48  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit strychnine's homepage
I just think most recent gabber that I've heard is too formulaic. The same samples, the same effects, the same structures. The only thing that changes is the voice samples.

It used to be so much better when it was all fast and pounding and terrifying (like Mortified Rage - San Diego Gabber), not just plain angry like this "POW POW *screech*squawk*scrape* POW POW POW".

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Posted - 2002/10/30 :  11:44:47  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit toxic's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by strychnine:
not just plain angry like this "POW POW *screech*squawk*scrape* POW POW POW".


or the sound of a cat being thrown against a wall



Crack another one !!!


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its not boom boom boom, its bang bang snap slap wack CRACK!

"what goes up must come down"...so keep popin!

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