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Rayovac
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There was a thread about this here before but I can't find it anywhere. :(

Basically it's where e.g. you have a vocal, and there's what sounds like reverb, but it's reversed; the reverb fades in and comes before the vocal instead of coming after and fading out. What was the efficient method for this? Yes, you can always render the effect with the clip and reverse it all, but that's just too much trouble really, especially with DAWs like Sonar that have the freeze options.


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Just put reverb on a sample and reverse it back with the reverb

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What Fishy means is, reverse the sample, add reverb then reverse it back. That is one way of doing it but of course it's limiting. The most efficient method otherwise is just to bounce the reverb track then cut the sections out that you want to reverse and reverse them in the sequencer there and then, I'm assuming you can do this in Sonar. There isn't really any simpler methods than that :P

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Taken from: http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=89073&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=140

"Try some reverse reverb;

Reverse Reverb Effect is the effect that you hear before a vocal or riff starts in a tune that sounds like a sucking sound. This effect is easy to create using your current sequencer and audio editor.

First, you need to open your sequencer, and write your catchy riff or record your vocal sample. You can listen to your riff/vocal with Reverb and Delay whilst writing it if you like, but make sure it isn't applied permanently. Once you are happy with it, export the riff/vocals without the effects into a wave file.

Next, you need to load the sample you have created into an audio editor, then using the tools available, reverse the sample so that it is playing backwards. Save this sample with a new name, such as vocalbackwards.wav. Load this sample into your sequencer, then load up your delay and reverb plugins and choose the settings you will be using in the track. Turn the knob in the reverb plugin so that its 100% wet. Now, save the reversed riff/vocals WITH the effects and make sure that the trailing echo is also saved into the wave file, save the file as something like vocalbackwardseffect.

Now, load the new sample into your audio editor, and flip it so that its playing the correct way again. Now you can hear the sucking reverse reverb sound at the beginning. But you don't want the rest of the riff/vocal as there is too much effects on it. So, snip of the rest of the track using the tools available, making sure that you have the sucking sound without the rest of the riff/vocals. Now save it as something like reversereverbvocal.wav.

Now you can load it into your sequencer and place it into your track before your vocal/riff to give your track that extra something."

Bit of a long-winded method but that's the principal.


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Edited by - Meathead on 2010/04/26 18:41:02
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Edit.



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Edited by - Hard2Get on 2010/04/26 18:56:42
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you can get an event cooler effect if you use also use a delay

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Lol as a result of this thread I'm going to use both in my current tune.



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hi there.i use fl but u will get the point

a tutoial i done http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_7VzqjS-gM


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quote:
Originally posted by Meathead:
"Try some reverse reverb;

Reverse Reverb Effect is the effect that you hear before a vocal or riff starts in a tune that sounds like a sucking sound. This effect is easy to create using your current sequencer and audio editor.

First, you need to open your sequencer, and write your catchy riff or record your vocal sample. You can listen to your riff/vocal with Reverb and Delay whilst writing it if you like, but make sure it isn't applied permanently. Once you are happy with it, export the riff/vocals without the effects into a wave file.

Next, you need to load the sample you have created into an audio editor, then using the tools available, reverse the sample so that it is playing backwards. Save this sample with a new name, such as vocalbackwards.wav. Load this sample into your sequencer, then load up your delay and reverb plugins and choose the settings you will be using in the track. Turn the knob in the reverb plugin so that its 100% wet. Now, save the reversed riff/vocals WITH the effects and make sure that the trailing echo is also saved into the wave file, save the file as something like vocalbackwardseffect.

Now, load the new sample into your audio editor, and flip it so that its playing the correct way again. Now you can hear the sucking reverse reverb sound at the beginning. But you don't want the rest of the riff/vocal as there is too much effects on it. So, snip of the rest of the track using the tools available, making sure that you have the sucking sound without the rest of the riff/vocals. Now save it as something like reversereverbvocal.wav.

Now you can load it into your sequencer and place it into your track before your vocal/riff to give your track that extra something."



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Edited by - BDW on 2010/05/24 15:13:23



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