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virus
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Posted - 2002/08/23 : 09:07:01
the thing i have to say, is that i dont mind slower speed, but if you are lowering the speed, but some freaking breakbeats in it, cuz if you leave the slow kick in, it just sounds even more like trance.
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Oli G
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Posted - 2002/08/23 : 09:47:07
Breezes tunes are done at around 168, ponder & dok have done there tunes around 165, a hell of a lot of people have done stuff slower, the norm is around 170, hixxys raverbaby stuff is around there... isnt it? (its quicker than breeze and styleses )
i dont see a problem, naturaly i play fast :)
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2002/08/23 : 10:09:21
I don't think anyone plays records at the original speed :P
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Xenochrome
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Posted - 2002/08/23 : 10:14:30
I have to agree with CEPHIROS. The speed is one of the defining qualities of happy hardcore. I tend to pitch-up most of my choons. About 175-190 BPM is cool for me.
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DJ Mouse
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Posted - 2002/08/23 : 12:24:58
quote: Originally posted by Hard2Get:
I don't think anyone plays records at the original speed :P
dougal never speeds his tracks up,he even cuts bits out of tracks to fit them onto a cd instead of pitching it up
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2002/08/23 : 12:38:32
quote: dougal never speeds his tracks up,he even cuts bits out of tracks to fit them onto a cd instead of pitching it up
Hehe Dougal's my favourite dj :)
And if you are reffering to Have It All on bonkers 3, then the middle is not cut out, it's a different version. Hixxy played it live so it could not have been cut out.
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DJ Mouse
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Posted - 2002/08/23 : 13:21:41
he's my fav and all
he cut bits out of eye opener and shooting star on number 4,and see me climb on 6,there will be others but i've only noticed them
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Oli G
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Posted - 2002/08/23 : 18:38:54
yeah.. thats another thing.. you would all call dougal hardcore yeah?
he plays the slowest out of em all
listen to his sets now (when ur not fooked dancin around in a warehouse) on tape or something, and realise how slow they are.. 168/170 MAX
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No Left Turn
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Posted - 2002/08/23 : 18:43:02
quote: Originally posted by milo:
supernova has been out for a long time and i must agree that track totally kicks ass, i can't waitto hear the next one by these guys.
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supernova 2 should be out really really soon
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Brian K
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Posted - 2002/08/24 : 05:44:51
^^^
YAY!
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DJ Slinky
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Posted - 2002/08/24 : 18:23:44
I agree with most people on here--Hardcore is supposed to be FAST. In all actuality, really the spped is what separates it being a different style. If you play a lot of HHC tracks really slow, they sound like UK Hard House and vice-versa. If you play a lot of Hardcore trax slow, they sound like Hard Techno. The speed is what defines Hardcore. I finally got around to listening to Speed Limit +5 a couple months ago, and I was horribly disappointed. It all sounded more like UK Hard House than the Old Skool shit I was expecting. Anyways, Hardcore's evolving, no matter what. It's up to us where it goes.
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Brian K
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Posted - 2002/08/25 : 04:46:28
like virus said, if you're going to make the tunes slower, put the one thing in there that made uk hardcore definable from any other genre...breaks! some intracitly well placed breakbeats in a track make so much more of a difference in a tune, also to me it makes it sound a little better of a production number
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virtigo
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Posted - 2002/08/25 : 05:20:28
Whenever I mix my hardcore, I set the bpm to about 170. that for me is the best speed for the hardcore I play! quality!
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2002/08/25 : 06:44:24
I would much rather have breaks than than a kickdrum if it were to be slowed down alot.
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silver
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Posted - 2002/08/25 : 09:28:35
If the tunes too slow double pitch your decks...
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