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DJseaking
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 Posted - 2011/11/17 : 06:09:44
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Originally posted by Dys7:
Actually, as far as I know, its really not two guys stealing songs.
For example:
From http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts&ob=av2e
To http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qayZK4mHM7I
thats vocal sampling, that has nothing to do with what we are talking about when we say sped up versions. there is nothing to say that that song was not just a sped up version of the same "remix". ( not saying it is) but if you understood what we meant when we said "just sped up" you could provide a better example
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Dys7
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Posted - 2011/11/17 : 06:17:26
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Originally posted by DJseaking:
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Originally posted by Dys7:
Actually, as far as I know, its really not two guys stealing songs.
For example:
From http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts&ob=av2e
To http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qayZK4mHM7I
Are you asking me examples in where it's just a sped up song?
Yeah, I know tons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrqSzADzCGU
I know the original version of this, heard it on 100% Dance a looong time ago.
thats vocal sampling, that has nothing to do with what we are talking about when we say sped up versions. there is nothing to say that that song was not just a sped up version of the same "remix". ( not saying it is) but if you understood what we meant when we said "just sped up" you could provide a better example
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Archefluxx
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Posted - 2011/11/17 : 10:51:39
random bumping lol
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_Jay_
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Posted - 2011/11/17 : 11:08:51
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Originally posted by Archefluxx:
random bumping lol
That's almost exactly how I'd describe most of my sexual experiences.
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Samination
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Posted - 2011/11/17 : 13:17:48
i wouldn't call remixes, or mixes at all. They're bootlegs, or edits at tops, as remixing requesires more than just adding vocals to a beat
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Karthy
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Posted - 2011/11/17 : 13:22:56
Yeah they're not remixes and I don't think the intention of putting Nightcore in the Youtube title is to pass it off as their own necessarily, but essentially all nightcore songs have the same HHC type feel and if you search Nightcore on Youtube you're basically getting what you want.
I like Nightcore, I like the sound of 90% of all the tracks, whether or not it's just another track sped up, but at least they sound good!
I don't think it's right to compare Nightcore to Rankin or Cammy, it's unfair. They passed off songs as their own and it DIDN'T sound good, they added random vocal shots in that sounded like shit among other things.
I'm not saying what they're doing is legal or right by any means, but I like the sound, and I'm not afraid to admit it! :P
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Samination
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Posted - 2011/11/17 : 15:55:56
some of them might not claim the songs for themselfs (like that Zombie II clip), but they SUCK at referring to the 'original' track
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cruelcore1
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Posted - 2011/11/17 : 21:06:53
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Well Trance is a (or the) genre name. Nightcore is not! That is the key difference.
So what? Nightcore is a style. And genres are nothing but defined and "wider" styles. Some people say Nightcore is becoming a genre (eventhough I think thts ******** XD).
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Originally posted by Dys7:
As far as I can tell, thats not just sped up.
Originally, I'm pretty sure it was just two amateur guys remixing songs (Remixing - not speeding up), then some **** thought he could do the same just by speeding up the song (and thats it!)
Nah, that's not it (except if u went exploring deeper than I did). the most famous Nightcore tracks like Dam Dadi Doo or Will My Heart Survive were sped up by them. Other people are only their followers.
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Originally posted by Samination:
for **** sake! Stop protecting these guys.
Chill up. There are worse probs in the music scene out there. For example one of the artists, that I won't name in public, who seemed extremely awesome to me, turned out to be a lousy thief, and pretty stupid (stealing a popular DS track saying "I made this song for a friend.").
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Originally posted by Samination:
Kindoff hard to really believe that any Nightcore group is real when there seems like they don't appear on any labels (to be viewed on discogs... but then they could've removed them) or any own sites
That's true, none of them are official. But I once found the "original NC site", and there are "all-nightcore" forums, so the site part is not true.
Nightcore is a matter of fun. The fact about not crediting original artist as a very bad thing is unimaginable for the fans. See comments on this link (don't worry, its not NC): http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=ZCwrCfOwRcI
See how many remixes (remakes/reworks) were made without crediting the original artists, and yet you guys fatefully listen to them. You can say its different cuz its a remix, but it was someone else's great idea, and not crediting the "idea artist" is still bloody wrong. I know people who despise that (including Pretty Rave Girl) just like u despise NC.
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djDMS
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Posted - 2011/11/17 : 21:15:51
Yeah, just chill up everybody. On a slightly related note, i just bought a load of Akira sun tunes - is this a bad thing?
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Dys7
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Posted - 2011/11/18 : 00:03:59
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Originally posted by cruelcore1:
See how many remixes (remakes/reworks) were made without crediting the original artists, and yet you guys fatefully listen to them. You can say its different cuz its a remix, but it was someone else's great idea, and not crediting the "idea artist" is still bloody wrong. I know people who despise that (including Pretty Rave Girl) just like u despise NC.
Never did figure out the whole history of that thing, I know there was Daddy DJ, All I Ever Wanted, DoTA, I Am X-Ray-s Pretty Rave Girl, S3rls, but I have no idea who ripped off who :P
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Samination
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Posted - 2011/11/18 : 04:23:59
Daddy DJ is obviously the oldest -.-
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cruelcore1
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Posted - 2011/11/18 : 17:16:00
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Originally posted by Dys7:
Never did figure out the whole history of that thing, I know there was Daddy DJ, All I Ever Wanted, DoTA, I Am X-Ray-s Pretty Rave Girl, S3rls, but I have no idea who ripped off who :P
They all ripped off Daddy DJ, with authorization of course  But despite authorization, a certain person I'm friends with know still calls it "stealing".
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Originally posted by djDMS:
Yeah, just chill up everybody. On a slightly related note, i just bought a load of Akira sun tunes - is this a bad thing?
Hes a producer lol. I dunno if he also "nightcores" because I didn't check it out recently, but the dude is a producer.  So how could buying his tracks ever be wrong?
BTW I no longer listen to NC. Why? NC is a YT thing, and I dont check vidz of people i subbed anymore. Also, rarely anyone nightcorizes Hardcore music. However, I will still make speedy livesets, and probably tag them with Nightcore.
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Samination
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Posted - 2011/11/18 : 17:33:56
I usually try to mix around 185-190, so it's not that "NC-ing" (technically, alot of Happy Hardcore and Makina DJ speeded up their mixes, so Nightcore wasnt the first)
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djDMS
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Posted - 2011/11/18 : 18:11:51
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Originally posted by cruelcore1:
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Originally posted by djDMS:
Yeah, just chill up everybody. On a slightly related note, i just bought a load of Akira sun tunes - is this a bad thing?
Hes a producer lol. I dunno if he also "nightcores" because I didn't check it out recently, but the dude is a producer. So how could buying his tracks ever be wrong?
I know who he is mate, it's just that i bought his album 'The Nightcore files' so used that to jump into this thread!
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cruelcore1
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Posted - 2011/11/18 : 18:15:12
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Originally posted by djDMS:
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Originally posted by cruelcore1:
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Originally posted by djDMS:
Yeah, just chill up everybody. On a slightly related note, i just bought a load of Akira sun tunes - is this a bad thing?
Hes a producer lol. I dunno if he also "nightcores" because I didn't check it out recently, but the dude is a producer. So how could buying his tracks ever be wrong?
I know who he is mate, it's just that i bought his album 'The Nightcore files' so used that to jump into this thread!
Oh, you should have mentioned it before. I thought you thought they were nightcored tracks, so that it might have been a bad thing. lol
BTW, Akira Sun loves NC indeed
EDIT: By "it" I mean the album name
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