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redwingz
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Posted - 2009/04/09 : 12:21:38
We cannot think of any other labels that have sales and when we look on download sites, we see a lot of tracks priced at £1.49 wether the artists is a household name in hardcore or a relative unknown, some are even more expensive. The prices on TID are set at £1.49 and Serious Sounds sell many tracks for that price. Is £1.49 really worth is for a 5/6 minute mp3? Probably not…….
Here at NSR, we believe in quality music for reasonable prices. CD Singles only cost around £1.49-£2 in a shop and they have artwork, packaging a distribution to take into consideration, so how can an mp3 be priced the same?
Our prices are lower than 90% of the labels out there but the quality is just as good…..So why do we do this?
- NSR is not profit obsessed.
- There are no costs to recover on an mp3 so why charge the earth?
- £1.49 drives customers towards illegal downloads, if music was cheaper, people would be willing to buy it.
In our eyes, there should be a middle ground, a price that makes it worth it to buy the track legally, this is why our tracks are £1-£1.09 for a 320kbps mp3 and as low as £0.89 for a 192kbps mp3!!!!
The main reason is that we don’t want to price people out of our music, we want as many people to hear it as possible, for us its not about profit, its about how many people are listening to our tracks.
So, as NSR tries to pride itself on being an accessible label for everyone….we are having an EASTER SALE STARTING NOW on Imodownload!!! Check out our prices below, this sale will end Tuesday 14th April! (Prices Below)
http://www.imodownload.com/NSR-Records NSR013: BReyn - Star Wars (IMO: 80p) NSR012: Dan Edge – Forgot The Music (IMO: 85p) NSR011: Bulby G Ft Fingaz MC – The Core Elite (IMO: 85p) NSR010: Chris Ross – Epidemic (IMO: 75p) NSR009: DJ Deano - Stab Ya Brain (IMO: 80p) NSR008: Haze and Suae - The Prophecy (IMO: 80p) NSR007: Disease – Doomday (IMO: 70p) NSR006: DJ Deano – Boomcore (IMO: 75p) NSR005: Chris Ross – Crank (IMO: 70p) NSR004: Deano & Yozza - Pump It Up (IMO: 75p) NSR003: Disease - Divided But United (IMO: 70p) NSR002: DJ Blue - To The World (IMO: 75p) With tracks at 70p each you could get two for the price of most labels tracks! So if ever there is a time to support the underground…..its now! Also, what are your thoughts on the price of MP3s and are NSR doing enough to combat it? hmmmm not too sure why this has been moved as half of the post is about a discussion on the price of hardcore music :s
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Audio Warfare
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Posted - 2009/04/09 : 13:12:45
TBH I don't think £1.49 is too much for an MP3 at all. I'd much rather pay a few quid and get a couple of tracks on a CD as a proper release though.
£1.49 is less than say a bag of Maltesers or something. If people aren't prepared to cough up that much for a track it's pretty sad. :(
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redwingz
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Posted - 2009/04/09 : 13:40:21
I don’t think I would class £1.49 as expensive if CD singles cost £4 for example, but the price of a CD to be the same as an mp3 is not right imo. However, I am like you, and I much prefer having something that I can hold in my hand, but if you are not paying for packaging etc, it shouldn’t cost as much imo.
£1.49 isnt a lot of money, but people tend to buy 5/6 tracks at a time and before you know it its £10, which could buy you HU3! And I think with the economy the way it is at the moment, a lot of DJs, especially the younger ones, probably cannot afford to be spending £10 every 2 weeks or so on new tracks that they need.
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Audio Warfare
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Posted - 2009/04/09 : 14:24:21
You could also argue that producers/labels can't afford to sell tracks cheaper with the economy the way it is. ;) Works both ways.
TBH people don't NEED anything. It seems that people just think that they should be able to have everything they want these days. When I was young and learning to DJ I had to buy vinyl and couldn't really afford to get many tracks but I didn't demand that they were made cheaper or go out and steal them. You save every penny and get what you can.
Personally I just don't really like the idea of MP3's as a retail music format at all. They are just devaluing music and the fact you don't get anything physical for your money is just shite. Dropping prices of MP3's is just devaluing music further IMO. Back in the day people used to have less music and actually appreciate the stuff they had. Listen to it over and over again. These days most music just seems to be throw away and that's a very sad thing IMO.
That's not a dig at the music by the way... I just feel people get tracks/CD's play for a short time and move on to the next lot. Just look at raves. All the DJ's only ever play all the new tracks, what's wrong with throwing in a few of those jems from the last nearly 20 years of hardcore aye.
Fair play for dropping label prices for a sale and that but I don't think it will make too much difference to sales I'm afraid. If people like the track enough I'd say it wont make much difference to them if it's 70p or £1.50 but maybe that's just me. :)
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redwingz
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Posted - 2009/04/09 : 14:58:31
I think what you say is true, DJs should play older tracks and if someone really likes a track then they will pay £1.49 for it. The sale is just another way of getting people to see NSR, people will see that we are having a sale and hopefully think ‘hey ill check those tracks out now while they are that price’ and hopefully that will generate new customers who check back on our future releases.
With all the digi-labels out there at the moment, its hard to get noticed, even if you have got names like Haze and Suae on your label! Any little things that we can do to get us noticed and get new people clicking on the link to hear our tracks is a good thing imo.
Im not over keen on mp3 myself, which is why we are looking at CD releases, and our first will definitely be out next month! This little sale is just a way of trying to get a few new customers because we want people to hear our music.
With regards to money, selling a track on IMO for 75p pays the label/artist exactly the same royalty as you get from Trackitdown for selling a track for £1.49 or selling one on Juno for £1.19. By having a sale on Imo, the label doesn’t lose out really because we are still generating as much as we would if people bought the track off Juno for 45p more.
Plus its only till Tuesday :p and if doing this gets a few more people listening to our tracks or clicking on our website than normal, then Im a happy man
Now bugger off with your mature and intellectual responses ;p
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Posted - 2009/04/13 : 14:16:23
Sale ends tomorrow people! Hope you have all had a good Easter!
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Posted - 2009/04/13 : 14:17:33
Sale ends tomorrow people! Hope you have all had a good Easter!
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Posted - 2009/04/13 : 16:10:43
bulbs :) ppl never wanna pay for music cuz its most of the time downloadable.. i'd be supriced if the NSR tracks are already on download sites/software (as in illegal shizzle) tho =p imo this stuff is still kinda exclusive ^^' a well.. buy buy buy pplz!! =D
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redwingz
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Posted - 2009/04/15 : 15:58:54
Well sale over now :)
But if there are any NSR tracks on illegal download sites, I would hope people would report them to be removed :) or maybe that is wishful thinking :(
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Fishy
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Posted - 2009/04/15 : 16:16:52
quote: Originally posted by redwingz:
Well sale over now :)
But if there are any NSR tracks on illegal download sites, I would hope people would report them to be removed :) or maybe that is wishful thinking :(
I really wouldent mind, people who get music illegal will do anyways, people who buy will do it anyways. The music will be better knows
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Posted - 2009/04/15 : 16:23:34
quote: Originally posted by redwingz:
Well sale over now :)
But if there are any NSR tracks on illegal download sites, I would hope people would report them to be removed :) or maybe that is wishful thinking :(
Trust me everything can be gotton for free, some illegal music people are dumb as **** though. Me and Bruxx gave away "Me & You" for free and we found it on some illegal download forums...How dence is that!
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Starstruck
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Posted - 2009/04/16 : 00:45:45
I disagree that 1.49 pound is too much.. As long as it's worth it though if you know whati mean.. If people love their hardcore, and actually understand how much work label owners go through to support and spread Hardcore (i'm sure you do too) they probably would pay 1.50 for a decent or above decent track? As long as my label for example receives enough profit, i will continue to be run it.
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Alfie_G
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Posted - 2009/04/16 : 11:03:06
quote: Originally posted by Starstruck:
I disagree that 1.49 pound is too much.. As long as it's worth it though if you know whati mean.. If people love their hardcore, and actually understand how much work label owners go through to support and spread Hardcore (i'm sure you do too) they probably would pay 1.50 for a decent or above decent track? As long as my label for example receives enough profit, i will continue to be run it.
I pay for all my tunes for simply that reason, If we want the scene to thrive we have to put the money back into it. £1.49 for the amount of time producers put into a tune is a bargain imo :)
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redwingz
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Posted - 2009/04/16 : 20:57:48
quote: Originally posted by Alfie_G:
quote: Originally posted by Starstruck:
I disagree that 1.49 pound is too much.. As long as it's worth it though if you know whati mean.. If people love their hardcore, and actually understand how much work label owners go through to support and spread Hardcore (i'm sure you do too) they probably would pay 1.50 for a decent or above decent track? As long as my label for example receives enough profit, i will continue to be run it.
I pay for all my tunes for simply that reason, If we want the scene to thrive we have to put the money back into it. £1.49 for the amount of time producers put into a tune is a bargain imo :)
Check out NSR Records mate :)
I completely agree that for producers like Kurt, Kev Energy, gammer to charge 1.49 is fine. Its when people who whip up a track in 10 minutes on dance ejay and put it on IMO for the same price as Quosh tracks that annoys me a little, cause people will hear that and think its over priced which helps kill the scene
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Posted - 2009/04/16 : 22:29:39
If I really did pay £1.49 for a track, I'd be happy, but no... VAT tax is added to the lot :/
but yea, quality wise, MP3 is very overpriced, especially compared to CD singles.
The problem (atleast what I think) with Hardcore, is that it's more aimed at DJs or Performers, rather than listeners directly, or rather, the consumer base for Hardcore are people mainly below the age they own a credit card, or a steady income. So it's not the price alone that makes people go towards piracy. This is maybe offtopic, but it's also about availability of the tracks. Raverbaby, for example, is always in highdemand, but in what format? Vinyl only. I dont even think Hixxy got any raver baby digitally, you just need to listen to the fully unmixed tracks on Hardcore Til I Die 1 and 2 to hear that even the raver baby tracks are recorded from vinyl and cleaned thereafter.
I still buy hardcore mp3s, even it's overpriced. Heck i buy japanese CDs for $15 a piece (without postage and taxes), and there's usually 9-12 tracks on them CDs. But if the song sucks, I wont buy them
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