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Rayovac
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Posted - 2009/03/31 : 15:06:37
quote: Big respect to Stormtrooper! A massively talented guy and I hope he does come back one day. Also, big respect to him for saying how he feels and not just saying 'Im quitting for personal reasons' He obviously cares about the scene enough to tell us these things that he is feeling.
All I can say is best of wishes to stormtrooper. Hopefully if the scene can get fixed he'll come back.
Also, with the comments redwingz made on the old boys club etc, and his latest post, he hit it all right on the nail.
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2009/03/31 : 15:09:47
wonder if it's anything to do with him being excluded from 'bonkers' and AATW having a greater influence?
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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2009/03/31 : 15:24:05
WOW! how did I miss this thread!
This is really bad news as Stromtrooper along with many more producers & the TnC crew, were giving hardcore the kick up the arse it needed & now look whats happened!
IMO this shows that 'the old boys club' don't want hardcore to change cause they're afraid they'll get left behind so what they're doing is keeping the young guys down.
This is f**king shocking & i've got nothing but respect for Stormtrooper as he's exposed the truth & made me realise just how money hungry the scene has become! For a guy as talented as him to call it a day just as he was becoming a major player in the scene really does say it all.
He'll be back, he'll just wait for the dinosaurs to go extinct. Best of luck with whatever you do with your life Stormtrooper & thanx for your contribution to the scene!
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näkkk
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Norway
755 posts Joined: Feb, 2009
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Posted - 2009/03/31 : 15:29:30
Real shame to see him go, but massive respect.
Great producer, hope to see him back in not too long!
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ChrisDale
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United Kingdom
420 posts Joined: Jan, 2009
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Posted - 2009/03/31 : 15:34:29
sad to see you go m8, big respect
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itsfxckingjc
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United Kingdom
2 posts Joined: Mar, 2009
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Posted - 2009/03/31 : 16:27:51
the only thing 'Supreme' about you is your belly.
stop bitching about him. he was bad at all and hes always been one of my favourite so grow some balls and stop acting like a girl, bitching about his music. jesus..
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Hi Breed
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Posted - 2009/03/31 : 16:31:45
quote: IMO this shows that 'the old boys club' don't want hardcore to change cause they're afraid they'll get left behind so what they're doing is keeping the young guys down.
Thank you for putting it into better words than i could.
Sorry for my initiated outbreak yesterday, but i wanted to say something.
Respect to the trooper.
To Redwingz I love your idea for a record label.
If you get round to starting it, i will quite happily use it.
There should also be more free download labels promoting new talent.
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nrXic
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Canada
117 posts Joined: Feb, 2002
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Posted - 2009/03/31 : 17:33:28
Each time a producer bows out of this scene, I feel partially responsible. As an avid listener, I only spend $60 or so a year on 2 CD compilations, and that's about it. But then I listen to hours upon hours of free HHC radio provided by HHC.com and DI.fm, I regularly download mixes to check out the latest tracks, etc.
That is to say, HHC is a part of my life, but I'm not spending a proportional amount of money on it. So I can't expect it to somehow sustain itself. I also love videogames and I spend $1000 a year on them...it's an industry going strong.
This could turn out to a massive post, which may detract from this news and derail this topic, so I'll leave it at that and I might make a new topic about this in the future.
My point is, when a talented producer leaves in a situation like this...I feel partially responsible because I've liked StormTrooper's tracks over the years, but how much of my dollars have gone to him to support him? I can't expect talent like him to keep pumping out tracks if that's the case.
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2009/03/31 : 17:36:21
nrXic singlehandedly is the downfall of the hardcore scene :P
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FingazMc
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Posted - 2009/03/31 : 17:55:21
Shame, a great producer. Atleast hes gonna come back at some point though :)
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K6HLR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2009/03/31 : 18:00:42
ah! For F**k Sake another great DJ leaves the scene if this keeps up we're gonna be left with styles breeze & hixxy and thats it!!! taking the piss this like!!
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/03/31 : 20:14:11
What gonna happen to TNC then? Doesnt he run it or have something to do with it? If that goes then we are ****ed!
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djDMS
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Posted - 2009/03/31 : 20:17:16
Only really read the first page due to the majority of the rest being utter tripe so apologies if I repeat anything that's been covered already.
Firstly, big respect and thanks to Stormtrooper for what he's been able achieve in such a restricted scene - definitely one of the best 'new' talents i've heard in recent years. Totally understand how he's become so disillusioned with everything.
I agree how hard it has been for massive new talent to break through. There are many immensely talented DJ's and artists who have been around for years and have got almost nowhere. The big thing though, is why they haven't.
It's all very well harping on about the 'big new talent' on here, but it's people like us (the paying public/ravers who ultimately decide who gets the work and recognition they deserve.
When i was going to events, probably 1 in 3 was one of the bigger ones, most of my energy and money went into the smaller events where i made extra effort to see the lesser known and up & coming DJ's who i enjoyed seeing. How many people are saying 'poor DJ so and so' then in a different topic looking forward to the next HTID event where they'll see the same DJ's on a regular basis.
The old guard are no more to blame than we are - we buy the records, attend the events and show support for whover we choose, it's no surprise that the established get the lions share - as would happen elsewhere in life.
I didn't stop supporting Man United when Hull made such a good start to the Premier league season.
I didn't give up my job when my work employed new staff.
I didn't leave my wife when the young lady down the road started giving me the eye.
Bit simplistic but you know what i mean.
You can't expect somebody who has a good career to give it up to help somebody else but it would be nice if they could put a bit more into helping the newcomers to get recognition a bit more often. The only way change can realistically happen is if people put their money where their mouths are and do something instead of just talking about it (and then sneaking off to buy tickets for the same old unimaginative events).
The main reason i barely bother with Hardcore anymore is because it does nothing for me now. 7 or so years ago it was back and i was genuinely excited (saddo). Now, despite so many warnings from so many people it's gone where we all feared it was heading.
So get behind your local events, DJ's and producers instead of taking the easy way out and blaming the obvious culprits.
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Meph751
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Posted - 2009/03/31 : 20:21:31
quote: Originally posted by Meathead:
What gonna happen to TNC then? Doesnt he run it or have something to do with it? If that goes then we are ****ed!
a lot of his tracks are released on it... robbie long owns it
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2009/03/31 : 20:44:55
quote: Originally posted by itsfxckingjc:
the only thing 'Supreme' about you is your belly.
stop bitching about him. he was bad at all and hes always been one of my favourite so grow some balls and stop acting like a girl, bitching about his music. jesus..
so you were banned/extremely censored and now u've created another account shuttlepro? how sad
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