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novaboy
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Posted - 2007/12/08 :  15:10:00  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit novaboy's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orbit1:
quote:
Originally posted by Angel Projekt:
I'm interested but i have 2 questions,

1. What are we remixing?
2.Will there be any samples available to work with?

thanx



Seems like people are too busy arguing about samples rather than selecting which ones to be made available.




well sam this is whati personally think.

a sample pack , perc, breakbeats, whatever.. but no leads, stabs, bass or effects.

i think we should be able to choose a tune to remix ourselves.

2 months seems ALOT of time, but its fair because theres alot of busy people out there.

i would gladly organize the sample pack but you would find people making shit because i havent got the best samples .. who will be doing the sample pack?


are there any other guidelines really?


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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2007/12/08 :  16:04:49  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Dain-Ja's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by novaboy:
quote:
Originally posted by Orbit1:
quote:
Originally posted by Angel Projekt:
I'm interested but i have 2 questions,

1. What are we remixing?
2.Will there be any samples available to work with?

thanx



Seems like people are too busy arguing about samples rather than selecting which ones to be made available.




well sam this is whati personally think.

a sample pack , perc, breakbeats, whatever.. but no leads, stabs, bass or effects.

i think we should be able to choose a tune to remix ourselves.

2 months seems ALOT of time, but its fair because theres alot of busy people out there.

i would gladly organize the sample pack but you would find people making shit because i havent got the best samples .. who will be doing the sample pack?


are there any other guidelines really?



What do you mean by choose a tune to remix ourselves? We'll get into a bunch of sample clearing issues...

What I think is that:

1) Someone needs to record or provide vocals they own the rights to.
2) Once we have vocals we can MAYBE have a sample pack - which I think Orbit1 could provide (since it sounds alot of people want to be confined to certain percussion sounds).


The reason we need everyone to have specific vocals is that:

1) It'll make it a real competition since we'll be working with the same stuff (and tough competition will make us produce better tracks)
2) We won't run into copyright issues
3) If someone decides to release the tuneage it won't be too hard
4) It would be nice to have something we made 'from scratch' at the end of the contest


Let's not use vocals that have been used before - if we do use vocals they should have only been used once by someone that has the rights to them and is providing them to us.

I think there shouldn't be any rules in terms of BPM or style to allow for increased creativity.

I'll personally be doing a 175 BPM UK hardcore number but I'm sure we'll get some nice breakbeat hardcore entries - so it would be loads of fun and variety.


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Posted - 2007/12/08 :  17:45:57  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit bulby_g's homepage  Reply with quote
Yes, it seems that most people want specific drum sounds so lets go with that. Does anyone want to put something together? Sam ;) If not I can sort something but I wouldn't be the best person to do it.

I don't think people should be able to use any vocal, it's messy.


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Posted - 2007/12/08 :  17:46:59  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit bulby_g's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Angel Projekt:
I'm interested but i have 2 questions,

1. What are we remixing?
2.Will there be any samples available to work with?

thanx



Nice one. See above. :)


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novaboy
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Posted - 2007/12/08 :  21:15:35  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit novaboy's homepage  Reply with quote
yep, sorted, i agree.

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Posted - 2007/12/08 :  21:18:01  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
I can put samples together no prob.
quote:

I don't think people should be able to use any vocal, it's messy.

Definately not, it wouldn't be much of a production competition then :P


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Edited by - Hard2Get on 2007/12/08 21:19:01
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Posted - 2007/12/08 :  21:19:41  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Angel Projekt:
I'm interested but i have 2 questions,

1. What are we remixing?
2.Will there be any samples available to work with?

thanx



Nice to have some female interest for once :)


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Edited by - Hard2Get on 2007/12/08 21:20:21
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if you guys dont decide soon i'm always available to record some hardcore yodeling in my bedroom studio (lots of money and time went into the studio to replicate the harmonics of the swiss alps). free of charge, of course.

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Posted - 2007/12/08 :  22:29:02  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit tommy_renegade's homepage  Reply with quote
i'm in

nb. only read first page so correct me if its gone :(

also can u pm me when its kickin off, i have a habit of forgetting to check threads i'm replied in LOL




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Posted - 2007/12/09 :  17:26:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Future_Shock's homepage  Reply with quote
lets get this shit organised.

Sam can you do a sample pack? or maybe just do a UK hardcore sample pack. Someone else can do a breakbeat sample pack, gabber sample pack, freeform sample pack etc etc...

who can get some vocals organised?


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Posted - 2007/12/09 :  21:28:16  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Dain-Ja's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Influx:
lets get this shit organised.

Sam can you do a sample pack? or maybe just do a UK hardcore sample pack. Someone else can do a breakbeat sample pack, gabber sample pack, freeform sample pack etc etc...

who can get some vocals organised?



If it wasn't XMAS I would bankroll the vocals but I can't afford it with all the gift-giving coming up.

However, I know Reese could probably hook us up with a decent vocalist (cause I remember him mentioning he got some tracks re-sung) - maybe we could offer her royalties and put her name on the track (like "happyhardcore.com feat. generousvocalist - people like money too much") so if we get it released (and considering the people entering into the contest that's pretty much a given)...

That way nobody would have to pay, she'd just get part of the money once the track sells?

Or I can ask someone I know that does vocals if she's interested (Jackie Shaw, featured in a few blizzard boys/phosphor tracks)
...I'll do that.


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Posted - 2007/12/09 :  23:59:50  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Audio X's homepage  Reply with quote
I'll ask Serenity if she's interested in donating something. :)



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Posted - 2007/12/10 :  01:22:12  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ_FunDaBounce's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:


What do you mean by choose a tune to remix ourselves? We'll get into a bunch of sample clearing issues...

What I think is that:

1) Someone needs to record or provide vocals they own the rights to.
2) Once we have vocals we can MAYBE have a sample pack - which I think Orbit1 could provide (since it sounds alot of people want to be confined to certain percussion sounds).


The reason we need everyone to have specific vocals is that:

1) It'll make it a real competition since we'll be working with the same stuff (and tough competition will make us produce better tracks)
2) We won't run into copyright issues
3) If someone decides to release the tuneage it won't be too hard
4) It would be nice to have something we made 'from scratch' at the end of the contest


Let's not use vocals that have been used before - if we do use vocals they should have only been used once by someone that has the rights to them and is providing them to us.

I think there shouldn't be any rules in terms of BPM or style to allow for increased creativity.

I'll personally be doing a 175 BPM UK hardcore number but I'm sure we'll get some nice breakbeat hardcore entries - so it would be loads of fun and variety.



NOW this comp is getting somewhere.There has to be an actual sample that we all get to use or else we'd be just competing for "HappyHardcore.com member's" Track of the year.
so I second Dain-Ja's proposal on getting a vocal(copyright hassle-free) with at least the basic melody line written for it(a song is not a song without this).


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Posted - 2007/12/10 :  02:04:15  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit novaboy's homepage  Reply with quote
why dont we just all try to remix one song, its much easier, we can judge on who produced the song the best?

and JD, you reckon your in?


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michael_mansion
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Posted - 2007/12/10 :  04:39:44  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit michael_mansion's homepage  Reply with quote
OK,

If someone gives me lyrics, I can have my vocalist record them Thursday night. She is coming over for a 2-day session and I may have time to write the song before then. She is a professional country music singer and she is on my Myspace page. By Friday, I can have the vocals tuned and ready and uploaded to the site.

Since this is a website competition, I've resolved that I will go ahead and do this for free. If someone wants to put together a sample pack, I think this would be cool, but the extra work of putting together a sample pack might not be necessary, since the availability of samples online is pretty much endless.

Does a Friday Dec. 14th Start Date sound reasonable to everyone?? I think this is good timing because this is around the time when people our age take off from school/work, so there will be extra time for everyone to work on their remix.


Let me know if this sounds good, and I will talk with my vocalist.

Mike


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