Uproar Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 2006/08/18 : 19:28:11
I finally got this today. I'm half way through Stu Allan's mix and I must say it's quite poor. Seduction's mix was alright. I've yet to listen to Robbie Long's mix (save the best 'till last ).
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Sk8SiM Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,293 posts Joined: Nov, 2004
Posted - 2006/08/19 : 01:51:54
quote:Originally posted by bulby_g:
Trancecore... None on these CD's :P Trancecore was old freeform.
I strongly disagree... Evan though that’s most likely true in the scene!!! I couldn't care never the less lol...
For starters, Freeform has to have ACID in it, for it to be defined as freeform!!! Doesn’t it?
And Trance most the time needs some form of "PAD!" or upliftingness!
Most freeform these days hardly ever has soft or uplifting pads!
It’s mostly just REALLY HARD SYTHS!!!!
Now... go back to bonkers 10...
Listen to.... CLSM - Sound of the Future
CLSM - Liberation
^^^^^ NOW THAT’S TRANCECORE!!!
There Pad elemented, uplifting and like all trance, they drag on like a bitch... for that all important anticipated lead!!!!
Then listen to... K Complex - Outta Control
Marc Smith - Revival
^^^^^Not the same as TranceCore is it!!!!
MOST freeform is structured the same as hardcore (not trance) full of hard edged syths and are just... F*CKING IN YOUR FACE!!!
S'all Good Tho
See where I'm coming from???!!!
i couldn't give a toss what ANYONE says... TRANCECORE IS DIFFRENT!!!!
Its just... seams to be dead That’s all!!!!
WITCH SUCKS!!!!! Trancecore OWNS MAN!!!!
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Sk8SiM Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 2006/08/19 : 02:44:33
quote:Originally posted by Chris B:
Hahahahaha your mad sk8sim
Trancecore is early freeform, or what freeform came from.
Not sayin they sound exactly the same but neither does nu style to old gabber, or uk hardcore to happy hardcore.
HUmmm Very true
but no matter what anyone says, I'll remain a stubbon wanker on this subject I'm a trancewhore man lol
Funny, as i wouldn't say i know tons about it - well, not compaered to hardcore anyways...
but you listen to some freeform and its very uplifting a has a HUGEEEEE element of trance in it...
and then you listen other tracks that ent got anything reomotly trance in it!!! but is just... **** YEAH!!!!
but its still freeform?
but IMO... that what freeform is and was in the first place!
confussing ay!
Ignore the samples, but just read what it says about trancecore and freeform (highlighting what it says on trancecore ) and you'll kinda understand where I'm coming from more!
Trancecore Trancecore and Freeform artists, labels, compilations and music do a lot of bleeding, so don't feel ashamed if you can't tell the difference between the two. Basically, if its hard and driving and trying to **** you up, it's probably Freeform...and if it's uplifting and epic, then it's a Trancecore track you're listening to. Be on the lookout for recycled anthems from Anthem and Epic Trance (as well as that nauseating "NOT Trance" shite). It's actually pretty tolerable, probably because there's no room nor time for 3-minute long breakdowns in Hardcore.
^^^^ there you go
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whittle1 Advanced Member
United Kingdom
3,191 posts Joined: Jan, 2005
25 hardcore releases
Posted - 2006/08/19 : 03:14:42
I've listened to the first two cd's, there good. Seduction's mix tickles my pickle the most, and i've never been that keen on Stu Allen, but it's listenable! As for Robbie Long, i can't be bothered with him, his music is not my bag. If i'm launching an assault on him, i'd say that i really dislike his mixing and he should be kicked from Hardcore Nation.
Maximes3000 New Member
Australia
67 posts Joined: Jun, 2006
Posted - 2006/08/20 : 05:27:59
It finally came!!!
I got it now and its bangin. Loving the first CD the most, Seduction owns. the album is flawless and I can listen to every track on all 3 CD's without having to skip a track or two! Amazing Album!
Sk8SiM Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 2006/08/20 : 23:35:45
quote:Originally posted by Leto:
Um...Sk8sim, trancecore is early freeform. Bonkers 10 isn't trancecore.
Bonkers 5, Sharkey's mix most certainly is. Actually, Nu Energy was started as an outlet for some trancecore tracks.
It broke from the Happy Hardcore sound. It had a more regular 4/4 sound to it. And it was darker, yet not gabber by any means.
Look to tracks by Helix, early Marc Smith, Sharkey (Distant Future) and of course Eclipse (not Ham, but the trancecore Eclipse).
Freeform is merely an updated version of trancecore.
I wasn't talking about ALL bonkers 10 lol, read!! i was talking about just 2 tracks!!!
mostly highlighting CLSM - Liberation...
if anything go back to bonkers 7... and listen to tracks on it like World Apart - Sonic Boom Boys
nice easy, uplifting, gentle hardcore lol :P
listen to the sruchter of the tracks... is got a HUGE element of trance!!! you can't say it hasn't!!!!
its kinda like hard trance - but bouncy :) nothing really making it stand out to be classed as "hardcore"
Bonkers 7 was crap yes! but it still hadits range of classics! but ... you couldn't call them hardcore! same goes for alot of tracks you here today to be fair, buyt thats just my opin!
and beleave it or not... to many people who don't know alot about hardcore!
UK HardCore is "Trancecore" lol yep, its true!
i remember when i first got into the UK stuff!
people used to say "no si... your not hardcore, your Trancecore" like it was 2 diffrent things!!!
being "hardcore" = listening to breakbeat hardcore, freeform, gabba ect!
Trancecore = all hixxy, styles ect
so in a way... you could say... Trancecore was early UK ;)
i quote again from that site
Trancecore Be on the lookout for recycled anthems from Anthem and Epic Trance (as well as that nauseating "NOT Trance" shite). It's actually pretty tolerable, probably because there's no room nor time for 3-minute long breakdowns in Hardcore.
Epic Trance = all that eurodance club/ibiza stuff! pual van dyk, ATB, oceanlab ect ect!!!
and how much of that stuff has been riped by hardcore artsit ay? :)
Trancecore????
thats why don't get serpriced to here people call UK - trancore! think of it as the same way people say most UK hardcore is house speeded up (some of it is i gotta admit!) you could say trancecore is just trance tracks sped up!
listen to hixxys bonkers 7 mix ;) slow it down a bit... and you have trance!
imo... i couldn't give a **** if trancecore is dead... or if it was early freeform or whatever! imo freeform and trancecore are totally NOT THE SAME!!!
just get a trance track, speed it up a bit, and slap a more bouncy beat on it! and you have trancecore!
Trancecore is more upliftingin them freeform... its more epic and it drags on more!!! trancecore has something known as a "climax" unlike freeform!
World Apart - Sonic Boom Boys = trancecore!
thats my opin on matters
(be aware, I'm a stubbon **** on this subject thanks!)
I QUOTE!!!! "Many fans of the genre also refer to to it as Freeform, although this term is disupted by some as they claim Freeform constitutes a separate subgenre of Hardcore."
AND HERE I AM
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Dave Tee Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 2006/08/21 : 14:14:15
To me tranceore is the old German stuff on labels like EDM, Spaceflower, United Ravers etc. tune like Slashin Funkids - Imagination and the like. Basically hard trance that was fast enough to be hardcore.
Not really bothered about 'genres' tho so I could be wrong, as far as I'm concerned if its good I like it no matter what category any1 puts it in.
Anyway...... I just wanted to ask about 1 song on this cd (I haven't got it yet, might get it in town tomorrow) but from the clips on juno Dj Milo - ****in Trip On XTC sounds like a fookin chooooon. Is it coming out on vinyl?
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bulby_g Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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430 hardcore releases
Posted - 2006/08/21 : 16:13:39
Sk8SiM - I can see where your getting your ideas from and while they sort of make some sense they're wrong :P As everyone has said... Trancecore is early freeform. It's what happy hardcore is to UK hardcore.
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Posted - 2006/08/17 : 23:04:51
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Posted - 2006/08/19 : 01:51:54
That’s all!!!!
I'm a trancewhore man lol
) and you'll kinda understand where I'm coming from more! 
