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charlieee
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Posted - 2006/06/07 :  12:39:20  Show profile Send a private message
ok here is the deal, im gonna b buying a mixer soon (just sumting cheap lyk a numark dm3050) but i dunno what one to get. i wanna get a mixer that has more then 2 channels (3 is fine) n 3 EQ with kill switches n a bpm counter any1 got any idea? of a mixer that might fit roughly sumting lyk this?

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bulby_g
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Posted - 2006/06/07 :  13:07:34  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit bulby_g's homepage
One major piece of advice would be to not bother with a beat counter. If you want to be able to mix you need to know how to without the aid of a beat counter (there wont be one at any clubs you get booked for!).

What sort of price range are you looking at?


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Chris Goldfinger
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Posted - 2006/06/07 :  15:43:24  Show profile  Send a private message
quote:
Originally posted by bulby_g:
One major piece of advice would be to not bother with a beat counter. If you want to be able to mix you need to know how to without the aid of a beat counter (there wont be one at any clubs you get booked for!).



I agree with what your saying about needing to be able to mix without a BPM counter

but the bit about no club having one puzzles me

the industry stand mixer imo is the pioneer DJM600 which has a BPM counter
and the industry standard CD decks are the pioneer CDJ1000 which again have a BPM counter


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bulby_g
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Posted - 2006/06/07 :  16:03:09  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit bulby_g's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Chris Goldfinger:

the industry stand mixer imo is the pioneer DJM600 which has a BPM counter
and the industry standard CD decks are the pioneer CDJ1000 which again have a BPM counter




I'm really a vinyl man so I didn't even think about CDJ's but yeah that's a good point.

Most of the clubs round my way use Allen & Heath mixers and I've never noticed a BPM counter on any of them. The only other mixer I've used in a club round here is a german make (I think?) can't remember the name, Again no BPM counter as far as I noticed... So my point could still stand if she was using vinyl.


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tunnelrush
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Posted - 2006/06/07 :  18:09:17  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit tunnelrush's homepage
but your still right bulby, almost every model ive seen (granted their not the MOST expensive models out there) never has an accurate beatcounter. My digital reads always fluctuate. I have no clue how accurate these bmp counters COULD be, but i have yet to see one that stands at a solid concrete precise number.

in other words charlie, dont mind too much about BPM stuff.

heres' some 3 channels to possibly consider
Gemini PS-02 3-Channel DJ Mixer with Kill Switches
Stanton SMX-401 3-Channel DJ Mixer
Numark DXM09 3-Channel





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Edited by - tunnelrush on 2006/06/07 18:24:46
Chris Goldfinger
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Posted - 2006/06/07 :  18:25:18  Show profile  Send a private message
[/quote]
Most of the clubs round my way use Allen & Heath mixers and I've never noticed a BPM counter on any of them.[/quote]

yeah to the best of my knowledge allen & heath don't have BPM counters

and charlie4u take bulby_g's advice don't buy a mixer just because it's got BPM counters you realy don't want to learn using them, it'll take more practice but once you can mix without them you'll feel you've really acheived something!!!!

I have to confess to using the BPM counter on my mixer (pioneer DJM600) ocassionaly when i've had a bit to much to drink/smoke/snort and can hardly stand, i have to say i cannot fault pioneer at all what they say the speed is it is however tunnelrush's says the cheaper mixers BPM counters aren't up to much and i'll take his word on that as i've not got much experience with them.

Basically my view on the matter is

BPM counters = cheating


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DjDynamic
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Posted - 2006/06/07 :  19:34:02  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DjDynamic's homepage
Save up ur money lad!! i was goin to buy the pioneer 600 and then i decided to get a cheaper mixer and got a gemini cs 19 mixer, now im savin up AGAIN~! fOR the pioneer 600, but cover the beat counters!!! lol!! Thats just cheatin!! lol! Hopefully ill have my pioneer in the next couple of weeks!!!

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Chidda
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Posted - 2006/06/07 :  19:53:57  Show profile  Send a private message
I have a pioneer djm 500 (think only difference if you can cut and loop sample from recorded bit on it i think? or summit like that!) I tend not to use the bpm counter, mainly because of what tunnel rush said, you keep get different readings and it can be hard to follow and I always think, what happened if it broke? then your buggered because you dont know how to beat match without a bpm counter!

I wouldn't let it put you off gettin the mixer tho, the pioneer djm 500/600 is a great mixer BUT if you do get it, learn to beatmatch WITHOUT bpm counter


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I have a pioneer DJM 707 and im damn happy with it.
It has put up with so much crap and the adjustable faders and feel key is really nice.


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Brian K
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Posted - 2006/06/08 :  04:41:42  Show profile  Send a private message
what are you wanting to connect to your mixer?
what are you wanting to get out of the mixer?
what price range are you looking at?
how far along djing are you?


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charlieee
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Posted - 2006/06/08 :  11:36:06  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit charlieee's homepage
oh k iv got a stanton c 303 atm, the price range is roughly anything around the $200 mark au btw, n iv only just started to dj so yeh. cause wat i want to do is lyk dj at friends party at 1st and just rent out another stanton c303 (iv got speakers) n then save up money n get another deck mabi the stanton c 304 or 303 lol. i basically want a mixer with 3 EQ n kill switches n if i can a 3 channel mixer. lyk say a BEHRINGER VMX 300. or lyk i said b4 a numark dm 3050

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clarke101
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Posted - 2006/06/08 :  12:16:37  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit clarke101's homepage
Dont get cheap poomarks faders go in no time and there generally crap.

Behringer are cheap for a reason.

$200 AUS is £80 or so.

Ive had a look on some .aus sites even the cheapest vestax is more than $200
id save some more money.


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