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Phobz
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Hi Everyone

I have just finished a song and it took me absolutely ages because my pc keeps going dead slow when the production gets busy. I was wondering if I should go about updating my computer. I am using Fruity Loops and the CPU Bar is normally at 80-90 when im not even playing back.. I have:

AMD 3000+
1GB DDR (2 512 sticks)
I have an onboard Nvidia Soundcard (ASUS MOBO) and a Soundlabs one (Definetely need an upgrade there)!!!
Is there anything else I should need to upgrade, if so could anybody help me out please. I really want to do more producing but my pc makes me not want to :(

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frigginhell mate.......how many vsts u using???

i have 712mb ram

amd 2100 xp

and i JUST manage a decent track(really need an upgrade)

if you have 3000 processor you should be having a party compared to me.......best thing to do is post on producer forums and get some knowledge i mean fx are a twat at using cpu power especially reverb........ur setup seems fine to me for now but id deffinately upgrade...im planning to anyway :)


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an amd dual core and 2gb or geil ram would be a nice upgrade but that will mean a new motherboard too (only about 60 for a good one)

if u want me to spec u a pc give me a shout and ill put a few parts together and give u the details.

or you could buy prebuilt, mesh pc's are ok. there is a dual core one with 1gb of ram and 160gb hd for about £600 inc vat, delivery warrenty which is a good deal if u dont want to build urself


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Posted - 2006/04/05 :  10:35:09  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Phobz's homepage
Yes that's when it happens mj-dream, when I use fx. It seems to be when i use a few zeta channels also though. Is it better to do all the reverb etc at the end of the track then? It was stuttering so bad the synth was infront of the Kicks etc. Like overlapping kind of. I had to keep rendering the song each time I needed to hear it, it was doing my head in =[

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lol my ancient pc wont even handle z3ta+ in cubase ... stutters like **** ... i definately need an upgrade! 900mhz amd and 192mb ram LOL!!! but i still produce decent enuff tunes :S dunno how tho!



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Ah yea sorry your post was not up before i just posted. I could do with an upgrade anyway there is a game i really want to play but its either xblock 360 or pc, prefer me pc though. So im looking to upgrade but I hoping it will help out in the production too. Yes I would prefer to build it myself I definetely need to buy a new motherboard for dual core though. Is it better to get SATA hdd's and use RAID? I don't know if that would be any use for music but games maybe?

I have a friend who will help me sort out a pc just around the corner he runs a comp shop so im all good for getting the parts. Would you be able to do me a spec list please it would be really appreciated!

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My pc is 3.2 Ghz pentium & 1gb ram and I don't have much problem anymore unless I use allot of something that really, really badly eats CPU.

Have you adjusted the buffer in audio options?

You may as well wait for an X box 360 they'll be £100 by christmas.


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best thing to do is apply fx at the end mate.......will give you a lil more room to breathe whilst making the track.

also watch ur vsts cause some like z3ta rape ur cpu like it aint been screwed in years.......last option is save ur midi files once ur happy with a riff/melody then save ur preset then bounce down to audio.....and bring it back in as a loop....will ease on ur cpu no end.......best bet mate

jaxon spec us decent pc mate but not too expensive...im not into prostitution yet :P


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raid is good for storage, so for music its better, not sure about games though. never actually used raid so i dont know much about it.

how much are u wanting to spend, what kind of storage in gb do you want, do you want a new case?

just going to pick my mountain bike up from a service ill be back in 30 mins and ill post a spec then


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dnt need new case.....80/100 gb hd would be good......1g ram or 1.5 ive read you dnt need much more than tht by a good source...ermm cpu...no idea...a good one lol

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Im Looking to spend roughly 500 - 650 ish, 100-200 gb (160 maybe)? I would like a new case, generally a new pc except monitor.

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right just got back, ill get onto it now



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Posted - 2006/04/05 :  12:25:59  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Jax's homepage
Phobz spec:

dual core amd athlon cpu, will work very nice with multiple tasking programs like music and photo/video editing

asus nforce 4 motherboard, nice stable board, ive got it in both of my pc's and im v happy with it

geil 2gb dual channel, its only £50 more than 1gb, it would be rude not to

cheapo gfx card, if u want to use ur pc for games add £60 and you can get an ati gto card which will run just about any game

small 80gb hard drive to run windows off, you dont have to have two but i always prefer to have windows and storage seperate, if your not fussed you can take £38 off the total

nice big 250gb hd with 16mb cache to store all ur music

dual layer dvd rw ...

after market cpu cooler (saved £10 on the cpu by not getting one with the retail fan included and this only costs an extra £8 & will keep your pc a lot quieter (if there is such a word lol)

and finally a antec sonata 2 case with 450w psu. quality case and v cheap considering it includes a good quality powersupply (usually they just put cheap crap in) you might want to pick a case of your own if u dont like it?





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Edited by - Jax on 2006/04/05 12:54:55
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Posted - 2006/04/05 :  12:39:36  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Jax's homepage
mjdreams spec:

the same as above, but with a single hd to save costs and no case/psu.

ive left the 2gb of ram because its only £50? not much for double the ram. another thing, you cant have 1.5gb of ram running in dual channel, so 1.5 gb running in standard mode would probably be slower than 1gb running in dual channel. if you arnt bothered about having 2gb then you can take £50 off the total. if you want to save a bit more you could drop the aftermarket cpu cooler and user the retail one, you could go for a slightly cheaper motherboard too if u wanted... and if u want to save even more money you could ditch the dual core cpu and go with a san diego or opteron, that would probably take another £50 off. uve probably already got a dvd or cdrw burner too so u could use that

edit: the reason i put a 200gb hd in there is because its only £10 more than a 120gb one



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Edited by - Jax on 2006/04/05 15:27:17
Phobz
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Posted - 2006/04/05 :  13:35:34  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Phobz's homepage
:o damn this looks good! I remember this stuff being a lot expensive when I was looking to buy my last pc over 1 year n half ago, MMMMM can't wait!!! Thanks Jaxon

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no worries



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