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Roberticus
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Posted - 2005/12/05 :  22:10:27  Show profile Send a private message
I got some questions going on around in my head, and here goes:

1. What's the difference between an ordinary mixer and a battle mixer?

2. What does one use a slipmat for?

3. What is the difference between DJ headphones and "Home-use" Headphones?

4. 2 single cd players+1 mixer requires 3 power sockets, and a dual-cd+mixer requires 2 sockets? am I right?
*still figuring out if I should get dual or single cd...*

5. What mixer do you all have (if you have one), and in Your opinion the cons and pros?

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1. The most basic deffrence is the size. A battle mixer is generally much thinner than other mixers. This allows the decks to be placed very close together.

2. A slipmatt is basically a piece of felt or similar material that is placed between the record and the platter of the turntable. This allows the DJ to stop and manipulate the record without affecting the platter.

3. "DJ" headphones generally have a more rugged design.

4. Correct. Each component requires it's own power outlet, so a dual CD player would use only one.

5. I have a Pioneer DJM-600.

Hope that helps.


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lill correction of the difference of battle 'nd ordinary mixer:

if ya got a very good battle mixer you can see what the other is plaing and see all the info about the track you need to know to battle him.. (not always but some thinges have it)


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Posted - 2005/12/07 :  13:29:37  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Roberticus's homepage
Ahh thanks guys! really did help
*more questions later*


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Posted - 2005/12/07 :  13:47:29  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message
quote:
Originally posted by dj bugbear:
lill correction of the difference of battle 'nd ordinary mixer:

if ya got a very good battle mixer you can see what the other is plaing and see all the info about the track you need to know to battle him.. (not always but some thinges have it)



I'd like to see one of these battle mixers that you speak of in the DMC championships.


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got a lill lcd display in it dont know where i seen it some private party i think looked nice want to have one

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5. I have a Ecler nuo 3.

The only thing i can think of that might be a problem is that you cant use all 3 channels and a mic as 1 of the channels is also the mic channel.


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Posted - 2005/12/08 :  00:24:58  Show profile  Send a private message
battle mixers are mainly designed for scratching so they usually have 3 (or more) cross fader curves to choose from

I have a rane 54i, tascam xs8, and a pioneer djm600...I have more but these are the ones I'm currently using =P

only complaint on the 600 is it's difficult to pull off crab scratches

dmc only use technic ex1200s


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quote:
Originally posted by Brian K:
battle mixers are mainly designed for scratching so they usually have 3 (or more) cross fader curves to choose from

I have a rane 54i, tascam xs8, and a pioneer djm600...I have more but these are the ones I'm currently using =P

only complaint on the 600 is it's difficult to pull off crab scratches

dmc only use technic ex1200s



Mine has a stupidly wide range of options for the fader if fitted with the "eternal" fader


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Posted - 2005/12/08 :  01:38:52  Show profile  Send a private message
quote:
Originally posted by clarke101:
Mine has a stupidly wide range of options for the fader if fitted with the "eternal" fader



does that come with monks chanting?



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quote:
Originally posted by Brian K:
quote:
Originally posted by clarke101:
Mine has a stupidly wide range of options for the fader if fitted with the "eternal" fader



does that come with monks chanting?





At £95 i bloody hope so.


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Posted - 2005/12/08 :  20:47:29  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Roberticus's homepage
another question:
Which one would you choose?
Two of these?
http://www.thomann.de/thoiw3_numark_axis_4_prodinfo.html

or a
http://www.thomann.de/thoiw3_numark_mp_300_prodinfo.html
or
http://www.thomann.de/thoiw3_artikel-173896.html

Or do you know any better equipment for about the same price?

And since I won't be left with much money, would this kind of mixer be good?
http://www.thomann.de/thoiw3_numark_dm1050_2kanal_battlemixer_prodinfo.html#fpix


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Posted - 2005/12/08 :  21:39:41  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit clarke101's homepage
Wouldnt get that mixer if i was you. i had a cheap numark mixer before my Ecler and i wouldnt recomend one to anybody.

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Posted - 2005/12/09 :  04:30:47  Show profile  Send a private message
I'd personally go for to single CDJ's rather than a dual CD player.

Main reason being... it's more like what the clubs have, so it's a set-up you'd be used to.


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Posted - 2005/12/09 :  14:41:59  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Roberticus's homepage
single CDJ's chosen , but what kind of cheap mixer would you recommend?

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1. Battle mixers are thinner, as previously mentioned - but not always.
One of the differences is the crossfader/fader/EQ curves - usually they are sharper in battle mixers since they are made for scratching

2. already answered pretty well

3. They're "Close cup/ear" - that means they don't let sound out or into the headphone cup. This allows the user to hear properly in a club...the disadvantage is that it doesn't reproduce sound as accurately as "Open Cup/ear" designs found on studio headphones.

4. 2 single cd players+1 mixer requires 3 power sockets, and a dual-cd+mixer requires 2 sockets? am I right?
*still figuring out if I should get dual or single cd...*
What do you mean by power sockets...if you mean in the wall for electricity - don't base your choice on that!
You can always just get a power bar which gives you 8 sockets.

5. I have a Vestax PCV-275
the EQ curve is different from most mixers...takes some getting used to but once you've got it it is much for accurate for EQing.
The only con I can see is that the Xfader has a little dip in the middle (I don't really use the Xfader anyways so it doesn't bother me)
There are sooo many pros: amazing EQ, quality construction, amazing sound quality, everything on it is steel - knobs and all, etc.


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