Mortis Advanced Member
United Kingdom
7,493 posts Joined: May, 2004
341 hardcore releases
Posted - 2005/10/25 : 07:25:52
quote:Originally posted by dragonboy:
has anyone heard ELYSIUM PLUS??????????
Yes, and it's still not a patch on the original. I don't see why Scott Brown made Return to Elysium, Elysium Plus & this crappy version thats comming out now. The original was a classic, if it aint broke then don't try and fix it
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Posted - 2005/10/25 : 08:20:50
Well I don't expect any hardcore lovers to really like it... you can't really even hear the main parts of the track... I expect the hardcore version to be much much better.
clarke101 Advanced Member
United Kingdom
3,839 posts Joined: Jun, 2003
185 hardcore releases
Posted - 2005/10/25 : 09:30:39
quote:Originally posted by Mortis:
quote:Originally posted by dragonboy:
has anyone heard ELYSIUM PLUS??????????
Yes, and it's still not a patch on the original. I don't see why Scott Brown made Return to Elysium, Elysium Plus & this crappy version thats comming out now. The original was a classic, if it aint broke then don't try and fix it
I really like Return to Elysium, not as much as the original though.
Jax Advanced Member
United Kingdom
2,676 posts Joined: Apr, 2005
Posted - 2005/10/25 : 12:08:26
quote:Originally posted by jenks:
Think it's pretty poor myself, I think they're trying to emulate a tune that is as successfull as that one that had the robert miles piano bit in it, but with vocals, can't remember what it's called...
i think its called "do you know", and the robert miles piano bit was off children
Don Giovanni Senior Member
Canada
290 posts Joined: Mar, 2002
43 hardcore releases
Posted - 2005/10/27 : 09:13:00
It's been a long time since I have posted on these forums but when I saw another remix of one of my all time favourite tracks I had to say something!
I remember years back when I first heard Return to Elysium was being put out...and I thought NO please leave the song be in its pristine state! Don't muck it up. But then it came out and I loved it...not the same as Elysium but in a different way. Then Elysium Plus *rolls eyes* I don’t know what was the point of that one (sounds like a few keys were switched around and the voice was added in).
Now this...thing...One of the things that made the original so great, for me anyways, is it brought so much emotion, but without any lyrics at all. It was and still is just pure bliss!
Anyway the lyrics for this are pretty good and I could see them being used for a decent hardcore tune. This song only vaguely resembles Elysium and I wish it were just called I Go Crazy and didn't have the name of a great song attached...But artists are free to try different things and produce music in a way that they see best to express themselves, or put food on the table...
So I cringe a little...but hope that maybe some good hardcore versions will come.
And for those of you in uproar about this, just remember nothing can take away how great the original Elysium was and still is. It doesn't matter that some tw@t in a mainstream club will hear this new one and know about the great original that inspired it, all that matters is that we know it.
*sits back and enjoys the original pressing of Elysium*
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Comet Advanced Member
United States
1,544 posts Joined: Aug, 2002
745 hardcore releases
Posted - 2005/10/29 : 21:34:59
Hey, let's put trance samples in the "HARDCORE" forum. :P
Anyway, just heard the Scott Brown Remix and it's pretty decent. To me, it sounds like an update of Elysium+. The piano line is the one from Elysium+ but the choir instrument sounds a lot like the original Elysium The structure is kind of strange because the breakdown starts later than expected. I'll definitely be purchasing the promo, though. Just to surprise people with the remix. :P
quote:Originally posted by mustapha:
Good tune, It'll definatly be a huge hit with the more comercial clubs.
**For those who continually put-down all these comercial mixes of Hardcore tunes...what about the many tunes that hardcore has taken from original artists? ** 'taken' was probably the wrong word to use there but you know what I mean.
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the difference is this: when you take a commercial song and make it into hardcore, you've made it better (much, much better!)
when you take a hardcore song and make it into a slowed down "for the masses" commercial track, you've done the opposite. you've made it much worse.
i've been waiting for a new remix of elysium for so long now, talking about trying a remix or two myself (but i know i couldnt do it justice). now that this comes along, with scott brown name actually on it too! urgh. not happy. he better put out a hardcore mix quick!
Charco Advanced Member
Ireland
1,979 posts Joined: Nov, 2001
Posted - 2005/10/30 : 16:39:35
quote:Originally posted by SouTHCoasteR:
the difference is this: when you take a commercial song and make it into hardcore, you've made it better (much, much better!)
when you take a hardcore song and make it into a slowed down "for the masses" commercial track, you've done the opposite. you've made it much worse.
It's only 'worse' because it's not your style or it's not hardcore, It's not supposed to be.
If there is a song that I dislike, It doesn't make it a shit song...just not to my taste.
Like silver said- it's not supposed to attract the hardcore crowd, and IMO, 2 hardcore re-mixes of Elysium are enough...first one, to me, was always the better.
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