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zippy
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Posted - 2005/03/19 : 19:41:37

hey,does anyone know of any online tutorials etc on setting up synths (vst)

im looking to diversify from my twidle with the buttony,twisty thing method.

cheers!

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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2005/03/19 : 20:52:01

I don't think it's really the kind of thing that can be taught too well, you have to just learn it from experimenting and experiance. But there is one thing you can be taught, is how synthesis works, if you understand how it works, then you should be able to learn by yourself. I don't know where you could get such tutorials though, i just know that a good one comes with the software verion of the Novation Bass Station, otherwise just do a google search, there has to be lots out there :)

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zippy
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Posted - 2005/03/20 : 15:47:07

yea,was more the effect of lfo's etc on the sound i was looking for....ill have a look about.

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Cyberpunk
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Posted - 2005/03/20 : 16:20:40

Synths eh... so are you working on something trancey?

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Underloop
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Posted - 2005/03/20 : 17:04:42

http://www.computermusic.co.uk

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zippy
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Posted - 2005/03/20 : 22:38:35

nah....am tryin ma hand at makina as usual....and its prob a relatively easy area compared to some more complex stuff to do....bouncy with simple melodies. just tryin to get sumthing nice for the of beat synth

(kick der kick der kick der kick..........)

that makina does so well!

was also wantin to know how to make the plucky offbeat bass thing in scouse house,but nothing works...

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The Deviant
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Posted - 2005/03/21 : 19:16:05

quote:
Originally posted by zippy:
(kick der kick der kick der kick..........)

Thats where you are going wrong, it's....

Kick Woom Kick Woom Kick Woom Kick Woom....

To make that plucky sound you need to apply an envelope to the filter, with it set to low-pass and give it a short decay.

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zippy
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Posted - 2005/03/21 : 19:41:25

hahahahahahah!!

all let u now how a get on!

cheers!

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lucificifus
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Posted - 2005/03/21 : 20:30:48

I am currently working on a Linux Tutorial with VSTs/, also a linux shoutcast tutorial. Anyone interested, drop me a line. VST + Linux = Lots of pain so far, but very high performance

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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2005/03/21 : 21:41:02

The Scouse House bass's that have a 'donk' sound, are made using FM (frequency modulation), so you need a synth with FM on it. The Novation V-Station has an FM section on it (one thing i really really like about it, because you can get such phatt sounds using FM in the right way), and can make such a sound, i've done it myself :) Naturally, the filter will need to be envoloped, as The Deviant said :)

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Edited by - Hard2Get on 2005/03/21 21:44:55

milo
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Posted - 2005/03/21 : 22:45:41

I don't have a link anymore, but there was an excellant post on ush that detailed how to make a breeze and styles ish sounding synth using v-station, i want to say it was posted by someone who used like.. ferrari in their name

http://milo.nuistic.com
HappyHardcore.com/North American Hardcore Movement/Totally Sweet Radio/Nuistic

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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2005/03/21 : 23:41:35

quote:
Originally posted by milo:
I don't have a link anymore, but there was an excellant post on ush that detailed how to make a breeze and styles ish sounding synth using v-station, i want to say it was posted by someone who used like.. ferrari in their name

http://milo.nuistic.com
HappyHardcore.com/North American Hardcore Movement/Totally Sweet Radio/Nuistic

John Ferraris? :)

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zippy
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Posted - 2005/03/22 : 19:05:28

arghhh!! im ragin! i have a few free vsts that i got off www.kvraudio.com that are fm based synths.

rite now the closest i can get for the plucky thing is off one called 'stratos'... http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1366.html.

but its still nowhere near.

does anyone have any knowlage of a particular vst (free one)...which they coud explain well enough?

cheers.

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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2005/03/22 : 19:43:20

Well there are full FM synths (which are alot harder to program than normal synthesis), and then synths that have a singe FM oscillator and a very basic envelope (on the V-Station at leas), the second one is what i meant :)

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does anyone have any knowlage of a particular vst (free one)...which they coud explain well enough?

Unless it's FM synthesis, or any other type of synthesis, all synthesisers essentially work the same, and always have the same basic functions (amp and filter envelopes etc...). I could tell you what you needed to know for most synthesisers (not that i know alot). Do you have an example of the sound you want? That would be really helpfull :) I could make a preset in the synth you wanted to use, and send it you so you can see what it is that you needed to do, if you liked.

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Edited by - Hard2Get on 2005/03/22 19:50:25

zippy
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Posted - 2005/03/22 : 20:08:05

that would be amazing mate!

im slowly geting there with tweaking this stratos....but all have a look for you.

ill post a link from juno as i dont have any host site or anything a can use.

ill have a look see if i can find a sample of the base track screach im trying to achieve aswell,jst incase anyones interested....think its prob just mega 404 work tho.

cheers a million mate!!