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scatmanron
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Uruguay
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Joined: Oct, 2004
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 Posted - 2005/01/16 : 15:03:44
hello,
i've been mixing hardcore in my bedroom for the last year now and think i've hit a rut. i can beatmatch fine and flick between the 2 tunes at poignant moments pretty well, but i feel i don't really understand EQ levels and tricks you can play, like bringing in just the treble of the other tune etc.
if anyone out there could give me some advice or things to try, i'd be well grateful. i've got a numark dm3000ex mixer (no crazy FX buttons) and the kind of hardore i play is freeform, i think, (i love hardcore but don't know many of the terms!), basically the sharkey stuff on bonkers and kevin energy style tunes. to give you an idea my last five tunes were: 1. wicked mc(clsm remix) 2.3000 cycles-dougal +gammer.3. beyond control-scampy and mayhem 4.in syndication-tazz. 5. lose the music- scott majestic .
i absolutely love hardcore music (although to my shame i've never been to a hardcore rave due to hard house being a far favourite with my mates (fools!)). i've got all these wicked tunes but i need to get good enough at mixing to play em to people.
so any wise words concerning that big shiny thing sitting in between my decks or hardcore djing tips in general (or places where to find them) would be really cool.
cheers now
(oh yeah, i think relentless should win a prize for their releases last year!)
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milo
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Canada
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Posted - 2005/01/16 : 21:54:16
working the mixer is crucial for making a smoothe mix. one basic thing to do is take your bass to about quarter level, mids to 4/10ths, and leave your highs, drop it in @ like 80%->90% volume, then just fade it up, then fade your mid in, and swap your bass kicks. makes things much smoother sounding
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djDMS
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2005/01/17 : 00:14:25
1 year old hardcore DJ eh?
They start young these days don't they?!!
(Sorry)
Just for the record by the way - i tend not to practice mixing particular tunes too much. I prefer to just try what i think will sound good - if it doesn't work, try another tune!
Because i'm old(!) i avoid messing with anything on the mixer other than the faders (i feel a bit of a cheat dropping the bass etc) and more often than not, i can manage a pretty smooth mix - even if it means having to drop the volume on one channel briefly.
Just practice with the different sounds you can get by messing with the EQ - like you said, you've mastered beat matching so just go ahead and have fun!
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scatmanron
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Uruguay
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Posted - 2005/01/19 : 00:42:37
Cheers for the advice guys, can't believe how much joy i had from just taking a bit of the bass out! My tunes now sounds like they're making love rahther than beating the shit out of each other! It's definitely time to face up to my mixer rather than just ignoring it with all the dials pointing up.
One more question to all you hardcore masters: what are the rules governing whether to turn the channel's volume up to reach 0db or whether to increase the bass, mid, and treble tp 0db (without adjusting volume). it's hard to listen to what sounds best in a flat full of quiet-loving, natasha bloody bedingfield-listneing flatmates. do you like the mid at 8/10ths for example, or does it vary per record. should the treble be higher than the mid. i don't like playing the bass higher than 5/10ths because my nice speakers really kick it out.
cheers again fellas and i hope i'm mixing hardcore at your age mate (I'm 20 not 1!) because as you all know hardcore will never die.
Peace and frendliness to ya all!
Let's put the "hard" back into hardcore.
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Sean Apollo
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United States
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Posted - 2005/01/22 : 00:45:56
What Milo said is VERy important. To me the best thing is using the Bass correctly. Just keep the bass down and when the kick and or bassline drops turn the knob and your in heaven. :)
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milo
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Canada
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Posted - 2005/01/22 : 03:09:05
usually the tracks are mastered to sound the best already, so keeping it flat (5/10ths) across the board keeps it pretty nice sounding, and then minor tweaks for each track to make it just round on the sound system you're playing on
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DJ Mouse
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2005/01/23 : 00:50:24
usually i'll bring a tune in with the bass killed completely,then when the bassline is due to kick in,i'll swap and kill the bass on the other channel.
but be warned,if 1 of the tunes is even slightly out,everyone will know about it!! look at it this way,its one way to work on getting your beatmatching spotless!
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philblunt
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2005/01/28 : 00:42:58
"can't believe how much joy i had from just taking a bit of the bass out! My tunes now sounds like they're making love"
YESSS MATE AVE IT!!
~Phil Blunt
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