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So Uh... Is Hardcore Underground coming back?

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Samination
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Posted - 2024/09/17 :  03:25:15  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
I'd say the part about recognition is what killed HU as well. Despite all of CDJay's own work, everyone else who have bigger names shun him (except for Ganar, that guy seems to think he could demand Styles money because he's on an album)

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Edited by - Samination on 2024/09/17 03:26:08
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Posted - 2024/09/17 :  19:12:41  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit MusicILove's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by rene13cross:
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Originally posted by MusicILove:
New Warped Science bundle coming soon. Just waiting for a few masters then it'll be ready. It's much better than the original.


So that Warped Science bundle will be different/remastered compared to the one sold through 24/7 before?

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HU9 was pretty much done mix wise. However they were having issues with World Of Obsession which is part of Tidy.


Presumably that means it'll never see the light of day...? Even just the mixes leaked digitally with some artwork? lol :D


Anyway, for your own part, MusicILove, I do feel bad. I know you've done a crazy amount of work over the years for different labels and different projects with (seemingly?) little to no official recognition (although maybe I just missed it




The Warped Science bundle is different from the last one yes.

It contains a lot more tracks in lossless although not all still. A few tracks have been remastered because the only master was in MP3 but the unmastered WAV was found. There is more content. Including a never before released mix or 2. There is all the content from Warped Science Digital, Baby Warped, and Warped Exclusive. If you want full tracklist including what is MP3 source I can post on my Discord. Doing photos on here is a pain.

It's the best version of the bundle we could do. Unless something else comes up before the few masters I'm waiting for are done.

Sadly yes. HU9 will never see the light of day and I doubt the people involved would leak the mixes. Especially as they won't even tell me what's happened.

Nope you haven't missed it. As far as I know there is no credit given to anything I've been a part of. Joey said he would send me a few things that never happened. That was over a year ago. My hope is that Al will at least give some credit once the Warped Science bundle is done.

I have also worked on some other labels that aren't publicly available. Rebuild Music being one. As I paid Thumpa for the collection and got a complete mess with missing content and MP3s of the CDs. Luckily friends of mine had the Physical CDs and most of the missing tracks that we were able to make it better. Entity even donated a remaster of his tracks that would be released on Brutal Kuts for the project.

Haven't handed that one over to Thumpa because of reasons.


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MusicILove
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Posted - 2024/09/17 :  19:26:21  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit MusicILove's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Samination:
I'd say the part about recognition is what killed HU as well. Despite all of CDJay's own work, everyone else who have bigger names shun him (except for Ganar, that guy seems to think he could demand Styles money because he's on an album)



Correction. Ganar didn't want more money. He thought he had been had. As he was expecting regular payments from HU from the album. However they only paid every 6 months. In January and July. He wasn't aware of this and kicked off thinking he wasn't getting paid. His track was then removed from the album due to the trouble he caused HU as angry people and artists thought they weren't paying artists.

This is unfortunately something that Joey also parroted. And he should of known better having done work with HU since 2013.

CDJay was given very little credit for what he did. However I'm not going to say he was perfect. There was a lot of management and communication issues in HU. One arm didn't know what the other was doing. These mistakes led to all the problems it had from 2013. I was trying to push changes like a universal doc or discord server where everyone could post what their doing and what needs to be done and decisions and such. However like many other things it didn't happen.

There was a lot of dreams at HU. However this lead to trying to take on too much and management not being able to keep up with what was going on. CDJay and the team did a lot of good. They got messed around and screwed a whole not. But they didn't help themselves. Some other major things happened to cause things to go really wrong. Out of their control. So I'm not blaming them. It's just a story where everyone had their part to play. A story where I wish I would of joined sooner as I was willing to give all my energy to resuscitate the label.


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Samination
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Posted - 2024/09/18 :  16:15:53  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
HU as a label was never really my cup of tea (I was already tired with most "mainstream" UK hardcore already with Bonkers 11), but they efforts in trying to preserve history with Completionist Bundles was and will always be a valiant effort.

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