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Impulse_Response
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 Posted - 2019/10/06 : 19:25:55
This applies to most electronic music but I hear it a lot in hardcore. I remember Triquatra saying something like this a few years ago.
I think one of the reasons I don't like much modern hardcore is the terrible sounds producers are using. It feels like they're trying to impress us by making the sharpest, brightest, most painful sounds possible. On top of an ear-shattering lead there's a bright, snappy kick that sound like a toy with layers of lossy compression, and a gritty baseline that is usually way too loud in the mix. This isn't true for all artsist but I feel like it applies to the majority of what I hear, especially tracks that take influence from EDM. Combine this with the standard loudness war mastering job and it's an ear-shattering experience.
For examples, look at all the recent tracks with hardstyle leads. I like a lot of them but I still think they're way too bright don't have a well balanced EQ.
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djDMS
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Posted - 2019/10/06 : 19:29:11
Having dodgy ears is actually working in my favour then cos I don't hear it
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LeVzi
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Posted - 2019/10/07 : 05:24:33
I don't agree, that track I bought of Al Storms and Laelia's , if anything was a touch bass heavy. But that's only on my shitty car system, on my studio system sounds fine.
And if i've listened to anything new ish, id not say there was too much high end.
tbh whoever Al Storm uses for mastering is pretty good tbh, the few tracks I have from him are well mastered.
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Samination
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Posted - 2019/10/07 : 10:37:54
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Originally posted by LeVzi:
I don't agree, that track I bought of Al Storms and Laelia's , if anything was a touch bass heavy. But that's only on my shitty car system, on my studio system sounds fine.
And if i've listened to anything new ish, id not say there was too much high end.
tbh whoever Al Storm uses for mastering is pretty good tbh, the few tracks I have from him are well mastered.
Himself? :P
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Si Thompson
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Posted - 2019/10/07 : 11:18:40
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Originally posted by Samination:
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Originally posted by LeVzi:
I don't agree, that track I bought of Al Storms and Laelia's , if anything was a touch bass heavy. But that's only on my shitty car system, on my studio system sounds fine.
And if i've listened to anything new ish, id not say there was too much high end.
tbh whoever Al Storm uses for mastering is pretty good tbh, the few tracks I have from him are well mastered.
Himself? :P
Correct.
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LeVzi
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Posted - 2019/10/09 : 04:25:43
If he's doing his own mastering, then fair play, he's doing it well, but mastering is always better from a fresh pair of ears, and even those online websites that you just send the track through aren't that bad.
Or its just Ozone used properly lol
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2019/10/09 : 08:18:40
I don't remember exactly what I said, but I believe what you might be referring to is my comment about what sounds like audio 'exciting'.
Where just highs and the lows are hyped. Some car stereos do it by default because it sounds warm to the ears.
but yeah there did seem to be a period where tons of modern UK hardcore tracks where doing it...no idea if they are still doing it as I don't really pay attention anymore.
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DJ_FunDaBounce
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Posted - 2019/10/09 : 13:57:58
Compared to late 90's/early 2000's hardcore I definitely hear the difference. My theory is that it's a result of dj's wearing down their hearing. I say this because after during long sets my ears have a hard time focusing on the kick (which would explain the evolution of the "punchy" kick drum). The gradual wearing down due to continual exposure is, in my opinion, the culprit.
That, along with the fact that "louder sounds better" should explain why it happens in other genres as well.
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