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Midway_raver
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 2002/06/28 : 14:50:36
No words old hhc song ...hmm u got all day coz that really doesnt narrow it down much!! On the issue of making a cd for personal use i think i'm with terry on this one. I have a massive tape collection bigish cd collection and bought 40+ vinyls or so. I buy vinyl alot nowadays coz i LOVE djing. I really don't see the harm in downloading a few trax for a cd for u too listen to. I do it occasionally. I have most of the trax on cd or vinyl or tape (originals). but it's not the same as having them all at ur fingertips on cd. Ok i might not own Broken wings or it's copywright but if its ok for Skelter and them to put em on tapes etc ect etc and sell em too teh puiblic why aint it ok for us to download a few tracks for ourselves that we can't get anymore. If records labels want me too stop downloading trax so i can listen too em then issue represses of classic coz theyd sell really well and then we'd buy em and evry1 wud b happy. Oh yeah on the subject on a few of my vinyls it says "not licensed for public performance" so if i spin it at a party or on a mix tape am i infringing copywrightr regulations then?
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terry6680
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 Posted - 2002/06/29 : 08:43:32
thanks for your support!
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silver
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Japan
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 Posted - 2002/06/30 : 08:02:54
Midway_raver: Okay let me clear your points up:
"if its ok for Skelter and them to put em on tapes etc ect etc and sell em too teh puiblic why aint it ok for us to download a few tracks for ourselves that we can't get anymore"
This is a gray area just like DJ mix tapes / CD's are, basically with a DJ mix tape or CD, as long as you not really selling more 100 it's cool and it's more promotion for the DJ and not just ripping off the tracks. Now I know Skelter and Slammin sell more than that (alot more), I know for a fact that Hixxy and all the Raver Baby crew will not allow this anymore (unless they get a cut)...
"If records labels want me too stop downloading trax so i can listen too em then issue represses of classic coz theyd sell really well and then we'd buy em and evry1 wud b happy."
You might think that... but it's not the case... it will not sell.... it costs alot of money to press vinyl, and the smallest run you can do is 250 units. You can't expect a small label to take a risk on re-pressing a track that might not sell more than 20-50 copies... There are reasons why labels don't want to re-press, it's a once off thing, a special thing and that is it... If a small car manufacture made a car then stopped making it, you can't just go and steal a car... Things stop for a reason, and there is no excuse to pirate hardcore. I know the problem, but I have a solution to the problem, stay tuned for some major news shortly.
"A few of my vinyls it says "not licensed for public performance" so if i spin it at a party or on a mix tape am i infringing copywrightr regulations then?"
Technically yes, it's more for radio and TV broadcasting.
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Midway_raver
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Posted - 2002/06/30 : 09:45:30
Thanx silver. To be honest i think that's a wee bit ludicrous of hixxy and raver baby...surely thats taking money off the very people he relies on to promote his stuff thru?!
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silver
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Posted - 2002/06/30 : 19:11:23
^^^^ yes and no... basically they need each other... Slammin needs Hixxy and Hixxy needs slammin... so why should Slammin get all the money... makes scene doesn't it?
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HaPPy i LuV Da HaRdCorE
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Posted - 2002/06/30 : 23:10:42
YES!
Very well put silver. You run this place very well, nice and tidy and explain the right and the wrong to all us lil kiddies in easy and clear ways...
Thnx mate 
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terry6680
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Posted - 2002/07/01 : 02:45:20
God.. and all i wanted was the names of a few classic tracks!
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DJSuperb
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Posted - 2002/07/02 : 13:08:42
Why don't you look up old hardcore albums on sites like www.amazon.co.uk or www.cddb.com. You can get the track listings and ... well you know the rest...
As for mp3s.... Whats wrong? Does it really destroy record sales when the average raver (not dj) who wouldn't buy vinyl downloads a couple of tracks that they can't get hold of on CD? How many CDs have been released in the past 2/3 years?
Downloading tracks from a CD (which is still commercially available) is wrong. BUT personally I think there is nothing wrong with downloading/copying things like deleted hardcore CDS (from record labels that don't even exist any more!) which are rare (For example my "Sound of Club Kinetic Vol 2" CD) :)
Can't wait for BONKERS! Now if ya download that from Kazza etc I will personally come n get ya. Be true to the scene!
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silver
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Posted - 2002/07/02 : 18:38:34
^^^^^
CD sales globally are down so much it's not funny... Hardcore CD's went from selling 8000 to like 200 units for example in Japan... and that is no joke... I blame it on people not understanding that music isn't free and mobile phones, everyone is now spending $50 a month on a phone bill insteed of buying CD's :)
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pacman
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Posted - 2002/07/03 : 01:28:11
umm... i hate to destroy your argument here terry, but if you previously owned them all on cd, why do you need to ask people the names of tracks??? presumably if you owned them all previously you should basically know what tracks/artists/labels you're after!?? that was the flaw in your argument.
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terry6680
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Posted - 2002/07/03 : 04:18:30
Because to be honest, i had them stolen quite a while ago- therefore cant remember all the tracks, so thats why im asking everyone to help me with some names etc, plus im not a dj so i dont know the name of every song i ever listened to...
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