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capone13
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 Posted - 2006/11/12 : 15:06:44
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ETC, thats good Hard Trance, there's a hell of a lot of great stuff out there.
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Slasher
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Posted - 2006/11/12 : 15:42:57
here are some short low quality samples i made.
http://download.yousendit.com/FE94F3E42554F44E
http://download.yousendit.com/F2AC6D24713863EE
http://download.yousendit.com/EE75FC306EC38C7B
http://download.yousendit.com/35D89350373CB143
http://download.yousendit.com/5AE6B16973EA72F3
http://download.yousendit.com/39E568F8251A58EB
http://download.yousendit.com/67107DC16C0118AA
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Righteous9
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Posted - 2006/11/28 : 16:27:07
Check out a mix by "DJ Elekid", Chicago hero, he spins all three together...
or go to http://www.Nukleuz.com, they have all those... That's the new stuff, but Hard Trance and Hard House have been around for a long time....
People like Lisa Pin-Up, Organ Donors, etc., etc.
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tommy_renegade
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Posted - 2006/11/28 : 17:04:13
hard trance contains most of the elements of a trance track, euphoric breakdowns, usually with a off beat dark bassline and punchier/harder kick drum.
hard house was very basic around 150bpm with off beat "oink/donk" basslines, mininal sounds, hoovers horns and acid. bouncy stuff ...
hard house NOW is very techy sounding, not quite as hard as techno/schranz,but definately more mature and has progressed from what it was
hardstyle was mininal de-tranced hard trance, with a whoomp sounding bassline, punchy hard kick drum, hoover stabs and screeching noises, over used rap samples bitcrushed and ****ed with
hardstyle now has progressed into something which is actually hard, nice banging kick drums with some distorted kicks in cases, melodic breakdowns, good stuff
i love all 3, but hard trance and hardstyle i would favour more :)
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grafik_bionix
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Posted - 2006/12/14 : 10:49:34
Originally posted by Pope C XXIII:
correction:
Hard Trance is like freeform played 30 bpm slower and with all the smart taken out of it. <---- bollocks???? i dnt like to disagree but i aint heard 1 hardtrance tune thats based at 30bpm!!! maybe back in 1990, then yeah!?
Hard House (as popular definition has it) is hard trance with all the complex taken out of it. <-----------hardhouse is the cousin of hardtrance, sounds like meaninful house basically, less trancy sounds, harder kicks!
Hardstyle is nu Style Gabber played 20 bpm slower. <----- 20bpm???? 120? Nu style Gabber??? WTF?! hardstyle is its own, i make it myself, i base it at 140 bpm.... hardstyle is a genre of music that is very dark and morbid, dark synths, hard acid lines, and distorted bass and kicks.
so basically....
hardtrance: basically what it says, hard synthed and kicks with a euphoric kinda twist
hardhouse: more promenent synths than hardtrance, slighty bouncier basses and kicks, less trancey!
hardstyle: really heavy kicks, acid lines and bass... darker than hardtrance/house, more hissy snares and hi hats. good hardstyle i say is very morbid sounding :D
sum may disagree, but this is what i'd go by^^
EDIT: i just see the post above mine.... basically what i just sed... lol soz!
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Pope C XXIII
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Posted - 2006/12/15 : 00:18:33
quote:
Originally posted by grafik_bionix:
Originally posted by Pope C XXIII:
correction:
Hard Trance is like freeform played 30 bpm slower and with all the smart taken out of it. <---- bollocks???? i dnt like to disagree but i aint heard 1 hardtrance tune thats based at 30bpm!!! maybe back in 1990, then yeah!?
Hard House (as popular definition has it) is hard trance with all the complex taken out of it. <-----------hardhouse is the cousin of hardtrance, sounds like meaninful house basically, less trancy sounds, harder kicks!
Hardstyle is nu Style Gabber played 20 bpm slower. <----- 20bpm???? 120? Nu style Gabber??? WTF?! hardstyle is its own, i make it myself, i base it at 140 bpm.... hardstyle is a genre of music that is very dark and morbid, dark synths, hard acid lines, and distorted bass and kicks.
The first comment meant that hard trance is 30 bpm slower than freeform. The average freeform tune is about 175 bpm. Hard trance tends to be around 145 bpm.
The second comment I wouldn't disagree with you, aside from "meaningful".
And nu Style Gabber means guys like Angerfist and Rotterdam Terror Corps who make their gabber at around 160-165 bpm with dark synths. Thus, hardstyle, which is around 140 bpm, is basically slow Nu Style Gabber, with more acid.
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SixFeet
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Posted - 2006/12/15 : 19:03:10
Apparently 60% of you are idiots that disregard any music genre other than hardcore as being shite.
EDIT:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7283340744004120337
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5778397125525778380
2 frag movie, one quake 3, one UT2004 both with a hardstyle soundtrack. Watch them for the awesome frags or listen to them for some awesome choonage. Alot of great hard dance styles in the both of them, definately worth a listen to see what hardstyle songs are like with a bi of hard trance and psytrance.
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Jax
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Posted - 2006/12/17 : 01:49:14
quote:
Originally posted by grafik_bionix:
hardtrance: basically what it says, hard synthed and kicks with a euphoric kinda twist
hardhouse: more promenent synths than hardtrance, slighty bouncier basses and kicks, less trancey!
hardstyle: really heavy kicks, acid lines and bass... darker than hardtrance/house, more hissy snares and hi hats. good hardstyle i say is very morbid sounding :D
sum may disagree, but this is what i'd go by^^
EDIT: i just see the post above mine.... basically what i just sed... lol soz!
thats pretty much how id differentiate them too
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Gaz Terror
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Posted - 2006/12/17 : 03:23:57
quote:
Originally posted by SixFeet:
Apparently 60% of you are idiots that disregard any music genre other than hardcore as being shite.
Init, I can't believe how narrow minded and/or badly opinionated some people can be, and yet at the same time fail to realise that UKHardcore/Freeform & Gabber is in some way (not in all examples) the same thing but faster?
Hardcore now has no 'real' originality like it used to (not to say that some of it isn't outstanding nevertheless).
The only thing that has a fair amount of the spirit of hardcore is Hardcore Breaks & Breakbeat Hardcore, and yet alot of you seem to shun it. (Not nessacerily [sp, it's late] the same people who have posted in this thread )
*sigh*
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